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Re: Scenario Comps

Post#11 » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:52 pm

peterthepan3 wrote:if people made their own groups, this issue would never exist anymore. crazy huh
Not possible given the complete lack of tanks and healers on Order.
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Snagnat wrote:In a perfect world, there would only be group queues. 5 players minimum for a group.
Meh.. there is a large portion of the playerbase that likes soloing. I like soloing if no one I know is on.. and how would you fill mid tier scenarios? I think the system is fine, outside of giving more incentive for 6v6 scenarios.
I like soloing as well, which is a good thing because my class does not get invited to groups for anything.

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Re: Scenario Comps

Post#12 » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:53 pm

DokB wrote:I think people expect too much from the pug scenario tbh. It’s like a mystery box except the inner lining is covered with sharp needles and broken glass smeared with poop.
This may sound crazy however the random nature of the PUG SC is part of the attraction. For me at least. Winning the PUG SC with whatever group you find yourself with I find at least as satisfying as winning some other SC with a pre-made.
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Re: Scenario Comps

Post#13 » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:18 pm

Martok wrote:
DokB wrote:I think people expect too much from the pug scenario tbh. It’s like a mystery box except the inner lining is covered with sharp needles and broken glass smeared with poop.
This may sound crazy however the random nature of the PUG SC is part of the attraction. For me at least. Winning the PUG SC with whatever group you find yourself with I find at least as satisfying as winning some other SC with a pre-made.
Totally agree on that.

Also, an easy principle for people : if you know you don'T want/can't commit to ''serious'' grouping + you plan on doing scenario cause you like it a lot, play a damn class that is useful in PuG scenarios : tanks and healers.
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Re: Scenario Comps

Post#14 » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:24 pm

Snagnat wrote:Yeah I know. I used to enjoy sometimes to run solo too. I've just got demoralized. In one pug I asked the AM to give the group a resist buff. Didn't get that. Instead I got the reply "I'm dps you retard".
That has nothing to do with Pugging, that's a player issue, like 99% of the problems with the pug scenarios. Everyone is always complaining about the pug sc being garbage, yet no one is doing anything to improve the situation.

The n1 problem is ofc, the lack of X role, usually healer or tanks. There isn't much you can do about it, unless you can and want to play what is needed.

Then there's the coordination issue. This is completely because of us, the players, not the scenario. No one ever writes anything in the chat, except a few people. For example, last time that Reikland Factory was the pug sc, simply writing "Go take Outer BOs first" worked extremely well. People read it, and followed the strategy of capping the 2 BOs each time, resulting in win streaks of 20+ for Destro, in about 3 days i got all the dominator pieces on my BO except the weapon.

Pug players aren't retards, they just need a little guidance and i'm sure that writing "Please, Cap X and Y first" isn't that hard to do, especially when it works great most of the time.

Ofc the risk of finding toxic behaviour is always there, but it's rare thanks to the GMs.
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Re: Scenario Comps

Post#15 » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:44 pm

Eathisword wrote:
Martok wrote:
DokB wrote:I think people expect too much from the pug scenario tbh. It’s like a mystery box except the inner lining is covered with sharp needles and broken glass smeared with poop.
This may sound crazy however the random nature of the PUG SC is part of the attraction. For me at least. Winning the PUG SC with whatever group you find yourself with I find at least as satisfying as winning some other SC with a pre-made.
Totally agree on that.

Also, an easy principle for people : if you know you don'T want/can't commit to ''serious'' grouping + you plan on doing scenario cause you like it a lot, play a damn class that is useful in PuG scenarios : tanks and healers.
Or you know, make classes actually viable besides just 4 or 5 over-played, spammed specs on each side. Every destro SC is the same - a bunch of chosens, a bunch of sorcs, and a bunch of healing DoKs with maybe one or two of the other classes thrown in. Order is usually all shadow warrior, bright wizards, and DPS healers with zero tanks.

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Re: Scenario Comps

Post#16 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:18 am

Martok wrote:
DokB wrote:I think people expect too much from the pug scenario tbh. It’s like a mystery box except the inner lining is covered with sharp needles and broken glass smeared with poop.
This may sound crazy however the random nature of the PUG SC is part of the attraction. For me at least. Winning the PUG SC with whatever group you find yourself with I find at least as satisfying as winning some other SC with a pre-made.

I enjoy randomness too, I dont really like it when things are exactly the same. I just dont like extreme cases of randomness which kind of make the match pointless.

But what the Game Master said was enough to satisfy me. Not that my satisfaction matters. They do all the work and I just enjoy the game they provide.

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Re: Scenario Comps

Post#17 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:49 am

Mystry wrote:
Eathisword wrote:
Martok wrote:
This may sound crazy however the random nature of the PUG SC is part of the attraction. For me at least. Winning the PUG SC with whatever group you find yourself with I find at least as satisfying as winning some other SC with a pre-made.
Totally agree on that.

Also, an easy principle for people : if you know you don'T want/can't commit to ''serious'' grouping + you plan on doing scenario cause you like it a lot, play a damn class that is useful in PuG scenarios : tanks and healers.
Or you know, make classes actually viable besides just 4 or 5 over-played, spammed specs on each side. Every destro SC is the same - a bunch of chosens, a bunch of sorcs, and a bunch of healing DoKs with maybe one or two of the other classes thrown in. Order is usually all shadow warrior, bright wizards, and DPS healers with zero tanks.
Gonna be honest, I see more BG than other destro tanks now in the pug sc. Always 3-4 BG. At least NA time.

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Re: Scenario Comps

Post#18 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:26 am

Toonman wrote:Gonna be honest, I see more BG than other destro tanks now in the pug sc. Always 3-4 BG. At least NA time.
I have noticed a rise in the BG population as well. It isn't that I mind or anything, BG's are fun to fight. But having three or four in an SC can be challenging in regard to their combined CC. Fun times.
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Re: Scenario Comps

Post#19 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:04 am

There’s definitely a spike in black guard population, at least during NA time. It’s such a pain to fight 4-5 at once. Did they change anything to make them so attractive?

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Re: Scenario Comps

Post#20 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:07 am

Renork wrote:There’s definitely a spike in black guard population, at least during NA time. It’s such a pain to fight 4-5 at once. Did they change anything to make them so attractive?
They changed them a while ago so that they weren't garbage when compared with it's mirror as well as the other two Destro tanks.
I've always liked how they looked personally and I collected Dark Elves when I played TT.
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