Clarification or Links to existing posts, please?

[Gnash]

I remember recently reading what seemed like significant changes to the lure of "cross realming" (jumping sides to exploit gains/wins) and whatever benefits those who participated enjoyed so freely. I can't stand that kind of 'claim jumping play', but that's my prerogative. I don't enjoy anything Order has to offer. Again, my prerogative. Aside from a few chest beating posts about taking up arms and choosing a side (which was the advertising that allowed me to bolt from W.o.W. during the blood elf invasion) I don't run around touting what a mainliner I am, or that anyone else should/shouldn't be; is or isn't.

Why, when players that are ALREADY logged in become aware there's action that more of their respective side is converging, especially when it's a re-action to lop sided balance finding equilibrium; are the most, and most vociferous, accusations of "Xrealmer" vomited out JUST AFTER YOUR RESPECTIVE SIDE HAS TURNED THE TIDE, even if short lived? And, iirc, opening day of Live, unless you purchased more than one account, and maybe spoofed IP?, that one faction was all the 'realm' you got unless deletion of every toon of opposing faction. How/why is it an insult, or an offensive act if one is playing completely within what's been and is allowed by the developers?

Secondly, is there a way/command to disallow having WB lead thrust on someone? Vets and experienced players seem to do this especially to players who don't hide that they play both factions; and I'm not referencing the "think you can do better? Then HERE!" modality, which I'm cool with, but the passing/handing over lead MID battle to anyone who openly plays both sides, and has experience/reputation as a competent leader if they've been even remotely helpful/motivating? I'm not referencing dill holes who tell all who'll listen about how 'bad' a WB leader is; they ougtta be made lead at login. There's a reason really good, friendly, enjoyable WB leads are difficult to find/so few in number: the player pop chews them up, spits them out, then logs the opposing faction and chews on them some more. I'm certainly NOT a valid leader; I LOVE my Marauder, have since Live debut (when Mara was THE mushroom) and I LOVE killing Order, any and all. Love to support/assist and kill all Order. However, my GF of six years, who I watched become a competent and skilled leader after Greetz (a god among WB leaders; my opinion) the SH pulled her under his wing. All the Xrealm accusations/Phantomdrake fan club bullshit placed a real downer on the game for her. Not to mention Joker's Legacy of Legends exploding back on scene when RoR opened, only to fizzle out, left her and many devoid of a sense of 'home' or 'family' we developed on live. She's barely logged 20 hours in a month for about 90 days when 10-20 hours most days was what she invested for the last 4 years. She really loves and appreciates true friends, online and off. She's but one player in a sea of many who get shite on, now from both sides... who are the same players, save a few diehard factionbois like me.

I'm not calling anyone out. She doesn't need me to. She's tougher than nails any day of the week. Tougher than me by far. But the gusto goes right out of her when, and this is typical, we're mid fight, T(X), and she attempts to assist WB lead by reiterating commands in differing channels, or opens up an overflow WB to better organize Destruction (referenced coz I only play that faction), and the "xrealmer" crap starts, followed shortly by her being handed lead WHILE mid take/defense when the overflow WB falters and she and I join the main WB, slots allowing.

Why does this bullying persist? Why do we, the playerbase abuse these goodnatured, skilled leaders like we do? And the "in crowd" B.S., which is only perpetrated by a very loud few compared to the many who are here to WAAAGH!, what place does it have, how does it improve the game at any level, and how the hell do we expect an angrier version of offensive Live Server behavior to attract new players, coz it sure as hell will NOT interest any Vets? Thanks for your time and consideration.

Good Hunting.

[Draugris]

Hmm i thought most players are playing both factions and tbh i can not see what´s wrong with that. I played a WP in closed beta of live and after release a WH all the way, so of course i am curious how destro classes play out, on the same time i always wanted to play a WL.

So what i do is choosing a side for the evening, i log in Order i stay Order, i log in Destro i stay Destro regardless if it plays out good or bad. I would have no problem if they could implement a lock out for a certain time on faction. But as i understand it they can´t do that unless they have client control

[peterthepan3]

This community is pale in comparison to the shittalking you'll find in almost any other game. It's actually very mild on the whole.

[vianiznice]

This community is pale in comparison to the shittalking you'll find in almost any other game. It's actually very mild on the whole.

Most long-time players tend to be quite courteous whether or not they win or lose. A vast majority of the "****-talkers" are typically the newbies to the server or players having a bad day (who I tend give the benefit of the doubt, bar a handful of players.)

Edit: PS. I suck at editing posts.

[Darosh]

Iirc, there was a thread like this one just a few weeks or months ago - I still fail to see the very point of it, but all power to you.

In regards to the shittalking as a general topic, I've yet to see any extreme cases; most of what I've encountered is just some form of banter, with emotes being the most obnoxious ~ none of what I personally come across ever crossed the line towards bullying, atleast judging so by my very perception of things.

If you and your girlfriend face any kind of tangible 'bullying' report it to the GM's, if that yields no resolution of sorts you might just need to toughen up a tad and see banter for what it is: banter.
Besides that, it might help to communicate and tell the folks that their jokes don't hit the right spot - most will adapt, as there is hardly anyone out there hellbent on stiring up trouble one way or another; if not at last because they are afraid to get moon'ed in the aftermath of whatever is supposedly going on.

Abbd.:
Huh. <.<

[Telen]

You get more realm pride and unity when realms are locked in an mmo. There will never be enough players to populate 2 servers though so youre locked out of half the content if there was. The real problem are those that jump as soon as there looks like easy renown. One solution is when someone swaps realm they dont get any renown until the next zone locks.

[Coma]

You get more realm pride and unity when realms are locked in an mmo. There will never be enough players to populate 2 servers though so youre locked out of half the content if there was. The real problem are those that jump as soon as there looks like easy renown. One solution is when someone swaps realm they dont get any renown until the next zone locks.

or you can just put in a timer of one hour before you can log a charater from a different faction... that would instantly solve the problem of faction swap when losing... since you will not be able to join the winning faction for the current and maybe the next lock... at the same time you are able to enjoy the content of both faction without a problem ^^ you'r also able to enjoy playing on both faction... just not in the same evening ^^

The problem is that with game being FREE nobody bar you from making a second account and having one account for order characters and one for destro characters... this way you could swap without problem and there is no restriction that could be applied... at the same time restriction toward having a single account are hard to enforce since IP per se is not enough to clearly identify if 2 account belong to the same person (there are actualy several real circumstances that can lead to multiple persons having the same IP, that is why ban for multiboxing don't use IP as the sole evidence, it also require time to verify and at the same time changing one's own IP is actualy pretty easy...)

[vianiznice]

Xrealming's not really an issue, unless you're new to the server and can only stand Zerging the other faction (These are the players you find QQin in /2). Most "veterans" love AAO and opportunity of zerg-busting.