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Re: Destro Morale Pumps post-nerf?

Post#21 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:16 pm

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roadkillrobin wrote:Best morale pump in the game is currently on order.
And yet few people actually use it since a ST morale pump on a 2s cast is not the most ideal form of morale pump, and group based, and passives work better.

Heck a mara can passively strip morale fast than an AM can pump it!

On paper it looks great but you can't have a healer spamming a **** 2s heal to pump 1 guys morale. With the exception of potentially solar flare, for which you don't really need morale pump because you are going to be using it in a funnel situation anyway, pumping individual people is a waste. Morale dumps are about getting spike together, it does no good to have 1-2 guys hit high morale before everyone else in a WB situation unless you are planning to use a utility morale.
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Re: Destro Morale Pumps post-nerf?

Post#22 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:53 pm

I'm not order crying about morale pump, I don't even have order characters anymore literally deleted them all. It just sucks that BG will never be considered competitive by some because it doesn't bring get out of jail free card to group. Like the balance changes to BG recently are borderline OP but it still in the cuck shed cuz no ID spam.

I mean I can argue that BG is competitive in short fights where morales aren't going past 2 or 3, but I think once you get into any confrontation that lasts long enough for MP tanks to get m4 you are going to wish you didn't have BG in party.
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Re: Destro Morale Pumps post-nerf?

Post#23 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:01 pm

Jaycub wrote:I'm not order crying about morale pump, I don't even have order characters anymore literally deleted them all. It just sucks that BG will never be considered competitive by some because it doesn't bring get out of jail free card to group. Like the balance changes to BG recently are borderline OP but it still in the cuck shed cuz no ID spam.

I mean I can argue that BG is competitive in short fights where morales aren't going past 2 or 3, but I think once you get into any confrontation that lasts long enough for MP tanks to get m4 you are going to wish you didn't have BG in party.
Good thing that Chosen/Blorc doesn't really get to M4 anymore then.
They do in large scale fights, but so does everyone else.

(I popped ID 7 times in the last warband i played with my Kotbs, without AM morale pump)
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Re: Destro Morale Pumps post-nerf?

Post#24 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:28 pm

roadkillrobin wrote:(I popped ID 7 times in the last warband i played with my Kotbs, without AM morale pump)
More times with AM pump, or just not worth running ;)?
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Re: Destro Morale Pumps post-nerf?

Post#25 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:30 pm

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davispeed wrote:Im gonna speak for myslef and many others im playing with.... Can we just stop the nerf on destro side for once, Like seriously!! Its no OP its just good while order have plenty of OP stuff to work with.

*No i dont have concrete example but we all play the same game(im assuming here) and we all know its a fact.
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Re: Destro Morale Pumps post-nerf?

Post#26 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:34 pm

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roadkillrobin wrote:(I popped ID 7 times in the last warband i played with my Kotbs, without AM morale pump)
More times with AM pump, or just not worth running ;)?
ID is pretty useless in large scale rvr aslong as there's a thing like a M2 AoE Morale damage mechanic.
Using AM pumps to get to ID is not something you want. You want to use AM's pump on the classes with M2-M3 AoE Morales in 2-4 sec of fighting. You don't need defensive morales when there's nothing to be defensive agaianst.

I used ID to save people that got Rifted and I was solo tankin in a 1-3-2 party aswell.
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Re: Destro Morale Pumps post-nerf?

Post#27 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:46 pm

roadkillrobin wrote:ID is pretty useless in large scale rvr aslong as there's a thing like a M2 AoE Morale damage mechanic.
l.
Guys, turns out 80% damage reduction is not good against things that ignore damage reduction. I am sure no one figured that one out before.

The rest of the time when you can cycle it on CD to save people from whatever situation they got yourselves in, forget about that, lets talk about this instance where they are useless.

Also, i saved 23 unguarded lowbie dps the other day thanks to a well timed engineer keg, now that is something to talk about.

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Re: Destro Morale Pumps post-nerf?

Post#28 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:30 pm

Dropped 4 Solar Flares and about 3-4 No Escape in around 20 min of open ORVR today.
Yeah AM pump so bad. Completly useless. ;)

I will also add that all these Morales are much better then any Morales a desto tank can slot in the first place.
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Re: Destro Morale Pumps post-nerf?

Post#29 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:19 pm

I say destro morals should be nerfed more, that would be all.
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Re: Destro Morale Pumps post-nerf?

Post#30 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:26 pm

Clearly destro morales are too op.

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