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Post#21 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:42 pm

Penril wrote:
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Its not like this was some sort of new or unknown issue. Mythic knew about these grouping balance issues with healers and that wp got way more benefit and more rp. They did nothing to fix it. So people dropped group. If they didn't want them to they could have fixed it at any time over 5 years. They prefered to allow oog and not upset their wp/dok players by making any balance changes.
Are you really suggesting that, since mythic did nothing to fix something in the game, then it must have been right?
No I think all of the awful **** that mythic didn't fix was wrong. But there was absolutely no reason to expect that after years of explaining to them they ever would. So take what you can. If I can't get rp because a wp spamming 1 button leaches all the rp I'm dropping group. Didn't see all these altruistic people refusing to double cleanse or those guilds stop bombing while the game died around them and people left in droves due to it. Welcome to the jungle. Your still playing a sw even though your constantly shooting through walls. Where the selfless penril there?
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Re: Partys

Post#22 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:44 pm

Telen wrote:
Penril wrote:
Telen wrote:

Its not like this was some sort of new or unknown issue. Mythic knew about these grouping balance issues with healers and that wp got way more benefit and more rp. They did nothing to fix it. So people dropped group. If they didn't want them to they could have fixed it at any time over 5 years. They prefered to allow oog and not upset their wp/dok players by making any balance changes.
Are you really suggesting that, since mythic did nothing to fix something in the game, then it must have been right?
No I think all of the awful **** that mythic didn't fix was wrong. But there was absolutely no reason to expect that after years of explaining to them they ever would. So take what you can. If I can't get rp because a wp spamming 1 button leaches all the rp I'm dropping group. Didn't see all these altruistic people refusing to double cleanse or those guilds stop bombing while the game died around them and people left in droves due to it. Welcome to the jungle.
If you were in that wp's group, you would split RPs. Also, if he is group healing then he is not leeching.

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Post#23 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:48 pm

You only got the rps shared from kills. Healing came from a separate pool.

I gather that from your 'since mythic did nothing to fix something in the game, then it must have been right?' I wont expect to see you on your sw until the los aa is fixed?
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Re: Partys

Post#24 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:57 pm

Telen wrote:You only got the rps shared from kills. Healing came from a separate pool.

I gather that from your 'since mythic did nothing to fix something in the game, then it must have been right?' I wont expect to see you on your sw until the los aa is fixed?
i don't deliberately exploit that. It just happens unless i clear my target. And sometimes i don't want to because i need to keep track of certain enemies. But i guess you are right, i will try to press escape faster from now on.

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Post#25 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:34 pm

Respect to both of you here for discussing this sensitive subject in a reasoned manner and not resorting to insults, etc.
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Post#26 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:48 pm

Vaul wrote:Respect to both of you here for discussing this sensitive subject in a reasoned manner and not resorting to insults, etc.
We've had years of arguing over this game
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Post#27 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:52 pm

I think this was a nice discussion.

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Post#28 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:13 am

Penril wrote:I think this was a nice discussion.
It truly was, I would go as far as saying it was wonderful.

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Re: Partys

Post#29 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:41 am

Out of group XP/RP is out of question, or solo players have no reason at all to enter rvr lake.

Not a friend of leaving group as healer in sc in general but when healers out of group heal more than those in group, then something is wrong. In this case you can really ask why you should join those baddies.
Furthermore there is the option to join one of the other 4 groups, when there are good players in sc and you want to group up with them.
Dying is no option.

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Re: Partys

Post#30 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:13 pm

with my dok i solve this problem directly lead those zergy ppl ask for fix guards etc and as solo heal i was able to heal 2 party alone being in group t2/t3, if you are better you must help other, this is how i think, and i simple hate heal out of party, i like have all on my ui so i can easily clik ppl.
If they overextend they die. I tell them, want you be heal? do not overextend, you have to do it 1-2-3 times then they learn ;)
As tank you can do the same if you push for first and get back as first ppl will follow you, also frequently ask for fix guards, etc in your tier make ppl on that bracket learn how to play, it mean that if they level up at your speed you will not have to do that again, also you help your realm that way, thus one day when you will be alone and with a 5% life and 1wb full with thoseppl will came save you will not regreat that :)
About xp/rp out of party it's wrong that you get more rp than heal in group, you shoudl gain the same, heal other wb member is a must etc you do not need a rp bonus to do that also, in zergy sotuation all must help all or situation get worst for one side.
Rp out of aprty must be set equal to rp in party.
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