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Re: Dominator 5 Pieces bonus : Barrier Proc

Post#21 » Fri May 05, 2017 5:19 am

Well negativ % get crit is imo very very nice. The most bursts and dmg you get is critical dmg
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Re: Dominator 5 Pieces bonus : Barrier Proc

Post#22 » Fri May 05, 2017 5:41 am

Daknallbomb wrote:Well negativ % get crit is imo very very nice. The most bursts and dmg you get is critical dmg
When you already have 0% crit reduction , you only can be debuffed by initiative debuff right ?
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Re: Dominator 5 Pieces bonus : Barrier Proc

Post#23 » Fri May 05, 2017 5:49 am

Classes have ways of making a target %chance more likely to be crit. But yes, those and ini debuffs.

And yes. Lowered chance to be crit is super important. Unless you're a BO. Then you just Waaagh!
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Re: Dominator 5 Pieces bonus : Barrier Proc

Post#24 » Fri May 05, 2017 5:58 am

Dabbart wrote:Classes have ways of making a target %chance more likely to be crit. But yes, those and ini debuffs.

And yes. Lowered chance to be crit is super important. Unless you're a BO. Then you just Waaagh!
No I'm not a BO . But since range has been reduced with flame turret , I often stay in the melee , that's why I was asking myself if stacking toughness is better than crit reduc (when you already reach 4500 armor ~100% dmg reduc)
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Re: Dominator 5 Pieces bonus : Barrier Proc

Post#25 » Fri May 05, 2017 6:39 am

Grunbag wrote: Do I have to go that much under 0% chance in being crit hit ? I have 4.4% chance in being crit hit actually and I haven't the 6piece domi yet and haven't put any point in crit reduction with renown points .
So you suggest me to go at -24% chance in crit reduction ?

I know the max I can have with toughness actually is ~ 850
It depends on play style.
I face 3+ focus fire almost always. reduced crit is important to me.
it's one of surviving tool against KD + 3sec beating by train. other one is aoe detaunt.
my current toughness is 470 in skirmish, can't invest more.
850 sounds good. all I can say is crit reduction have some use.
I guess you have to find balance between them yourself. I have little knowledge about engi.
and 45 pt invest in crit reduction means very poor damage.
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Re: Dominator 5 Pieces bonus : Barrier Proc

Post#26 » Fri May 05, 2017 6:41 am

Sorry, I meant the BO bit as a joke, since in DPS gear you have like 18% chance to be crit.

Yes, toughness is great. As long as everything else is sorted. Armor/cap resis/crit chance/600+wounds. Having a good all round defense is my go to. But build your toon based on what you tend to be fighting/where. Give it a try.
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Re: Dominator 5 Pieces bonus : Barrier Proc

Post#27 » Fri May 05, 2017 6:47 am

anarchypark wrote:
Grunbag wrote: Do I have to go that much under 0% chance in being crit hit ? I have 4.4% chance in being crit hit actually and I haven't the 6piece domi yet and haven't put any point in crit reduction with renown points .
So you suggest me to go at -24% chance in crit reduction ?

I know the max I can have with toughness actually is ~ 850
It depends on play style.
I face 3+ focus fire almost always. reduced crit is important to me.
it's one of surviving tool against KD + 3sec beating by train. other one is aoe detaunt.
my current toughness is 470 in skirmish, can't invest more.
850 sounds good. all I can say is crit reduction have some use.
I guess you have to find balance between them yourself. I have little knowledge about engi.
and 45 pt invest in crit reduction means very poor damage.
Indeed , dmg is low if you focus on def stats , that's not a problem if your play to support your team mate (ap regen, keg heal, +50% cast time on caster, -20% dmg on your group, magnet , aoe snare, aoe KD , aoe punt , interrupt caster...) .if you focus on this you don't have time to think about dps.

I can't go for 850 toughness while keeping 4500 armor . It's also always hard to chose between toughness and armor.

Maybe you're right , I'll test negative crit reduction and see if there's some differences
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Re: Dominator 5 Pieces bonus : Barrier Proc

Post#28 » Sun May 07, 2017 6:51 am

forgot to mention that shield is effected by toughness
It may absorb more dmg with 800+ tough per 1proc.
still minor bonus with only 10% chance.
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