Questions - Why I left before.

[Sulorie]

No Dwarfs in DaoC. So RoR for me all the day.

They had Dwarfs in DAOC.

Several games have dwarfs but they all look shitty compared to Warhammer dwarfs. You can't just shrink a human and paste a beard to their face.

[Kobra]

I feel for the OP - ganking newbs is the foundation of all of the legendary PVP games

Meridian 59, Shadowbane, UO, Neocron, all of the best PVP games had newb ganking as part of their gameplay. These are hard core PVP games. These days a lot of PVP games have 'safe spaces'.

I miss the hardcore days. Bad.. Unfortunately they are rare so I end up playing games where it's pure chaos, like World of Warships and stuff. Nowhere to hide.

[Luth]

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[Crust]

A reply to the OP's second post, wow had the most griefing in any mmo i ever played with one exception, ultima online.
I dont miss trying to get past level 10 without having to run and hide all the time, respawn all the time from deaths caused by highlevels 'doing it for sport'... to log out and back in lateron and not being able to turn in any quests... because some level 60 just murdered the whole town causing the npc's to bug out afterwards... 'whats that in the distance, ow hes coming back for another round'... not a great ruleset if your playtime is limited - you achieve nothing. That only works if everyone is around the same level and all that, the ruleset did not take this in account in any fashion.

This is good, you can pvp in ALOT of area's and you have to respect ppl that dont care for that attitude, theres nothing elitist about that, its fairly simple and straightforward.

'War likes to contain and limit you'... in comparison to wow i find this really ironic