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dansari
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Re: 4K of salt

Post#41 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:43 am

saupreusse wrote:
Arteker616 wrote:
saupreusse wrote:Sw... Cool once every two minutes. Hits like a wet noodle the rest of the day
SW doesnt need to rely on festerbomb when they can flanking shot a squish or a mdps for 2k without m2 :D i still want to see a a sh pull that kid of dmg with poison arrer 8-)
they do and a 2k flanking shot is unrealistic without m2 + this shot requires you to stand behind your target and has a cooldown. So its not really somethimg you can reliably put into a rotation. The problem is that you simply cant keep up the preassure on the enemy team like other dps do and even your spammable healdebuff does not compensate this.
Although that's not to say SW don't have their place in a group... Or that they are underpowered. It is more a factor of healing being strong in the game, which is why most classes that can't burst a target reliably have to be paired with classes that can. SW provide good group utility and relatively good consistent damage in their current iteration, so I normally find my place in 3-2-1 groups, where I'm paired with two burst classes and I provide the support for them while being relatively low risk to my healers with my mobility.
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Re: 4K of salt

Post#42 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:44 am

saupreusse wrote:
Arteker616 wrote:
saupreusse wrote:Sw... Cool once every two minutes. Hits like a wet noodle the rest of the day
SW doesnt need to rely on festerbomb when they can flanking shot a squish or a mdps for 2k without m2 :D i still want to see a a sh pull that kid of dmg with poison arrer 8-)
they do and a 2k flanking shot is unrealistic without m2 + this shot requires you to stand behind your target and has a cooldown. So its not really somethimg you can reliably put into a rotation. The problem is that you simply cant keep up the preassure on the enemy team like other dps do and even your spammable healdebuff does not compensate this.
U havent tried to kite much agaisnt a group with a decent SW.in RVR when u Face a good sw . its not about rotation but what can happen when u try to kite and u can get bursted hard by one.
The SW like SH excell as sustained dmg .In any group with ranged duo dps the sw is the one doing the hard part due to the presure he apply to the target. he can kd(wich is aswell a ini debuff), he can heal debuff, he can armour debuff, and if the target try to kite back has the tools to drop insane dmg .

Plz provide proof Poison arrer can do relevant dmg . i have been grouped with so many 60+ shs that deem it to be useles and claim they would rather use plink than spec for it that watching a screenshot of it actualy doing something would be awesome(after to many sh bitching about it :twisted: )

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Re: 4K of salt

Post#43 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:48 am

dansari wrote:
saupreusse wrote:
Arteker616 wrote: SW doesnt need to rely on festerbomb when they can flanking shot a squish or a mdps for 2k without m2 :D i still want to see a a sh pull that kid of dmg with poison arrer 8-)
they do and a 2k flanking shot is unrealistic without m2 + this shot requires you to stand behind your target and has a cooldown. So its not really somethimg you can reliably put into a rotation. The problem is that you simply cant keep up the preassure on the enemy team like other dps do and even your spammable healdebuff does not compensate this.
Although that's not to say SW don't have their place in a group... Or that they are underpowered. It is more a factor of healing being strong in the game, which is why most classes that can't burst a target reliably have to be paired with classes that can. SW provide good group utility and relatively good consistent damage in their current iteration, so I normally find my place in 3-2-1 groups, where I'm paired with two burst classes and I provide the support for them while being relatively low risk to my healers with my mobility.
Considering the last time u Killed me in open was with a 4k festerbomb when we were killing ur 4 man with you as only source of dps its rolf time. specialy because we would had trashed u and group if wasnt because u svaed the day with the festerbomb :D

wanna see? :twisted:
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Re: 4K of salt

Post#44 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:42 pm

SW is a killer sustained dps/debuff bot for a real DPS. Nothing wrong with that. I'll take a bunch of ranged debuffs over here please! If you get plunked by a Festerbomb spec then gz for them. You have bigger things to worry about.
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Re: 4K of salt

Post#45 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:45 pm

90% of the time a target runs out of range during the 3s cast. If they dont they are frontline and guarded. So once in a blue moon you get a fb off on an unguarded target.
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Re: 4K of salt

Post#46 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:56 pm

And If youre unluccky dodge bäm
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Re: 4K of salt

Post#47 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 2:55 pm

Arteker616 wrote:
dansari wrote:
saupreusse wrote: they do and a 2k flanking shot is unrealistic without m2 + this shot requires you to stand behind your target and has a cooldown. So its not really somethimg you can reliably put into a rotation. The problem is that you simply cant keep up the preassure on the enemy team like other dps do and even your spammable healdebuff does not compensate this.
Although that's not to say SW don't have their place in a group... Or that they are underpowered. It is more a factor of healing being strong in the game, which is why most classes that can't burst a target reliably have to be paired with classes that can. SW provide good group utility and relatively good consistent damage in their current iteration, so I normally find my place in 3-2-1 groups, where I'm paired with two burst classes and I provide the support for them while being relatively low risk to my healers with my mobility.
Considering the last time u Killed me in open was with a 4k festerbomb when we were killing ur 4 man with you as only source of dps its rolf time. specialy because we would had trashed u and group if wasnt because u svaed the day with the festerbomb :D

wanna see? :twisted:
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I'm not sure what you're trying to prove with this salty whine. You're saying I used m2 on you, got a crit, and you died? It's almost as if I play a DPS character.
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Re: 4K of salt

Post#48 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 8:26 pm

Aurandilaz wrote: Back in 2012 my +90rr shaman in DF gear would get +7000 damage crit hit from SWs, whilst I was having full Trivial blows, meaning without TB I would have been nuked well over +14000 damage;
As I recall, TB only affected crit damage, not total damage.

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