15 highest RR of the server.... more than 1/4 are squig herders

[wiscel]

My squigherder can't do anything against WL, AM (well, most of them) and high def KOTBS. Squigherder OP? Nope. And they don't need a boost either.

[peterthepan3]

More impressed with the high RR Melee on the server tbh (Norkal/Okdac). Playing a ranged in RvR and getting good kill vs death ratios is incredibly easy as it stands.

[Renork]

More impressed with the high RR Melee on the server tbh (Norkal/Okdac). Playing a ranged in RvR and getting good kill vs death ratios is incredibly easy as it stands.

^ this
Even with a crappy ping you can still do decent :^)

[peterthepan3]

More impressed with the high RR Melee on the server tbh (Norkal/Okdac). Playing a ranged in RvR and getting good kill vs death ratios is incredibly easy as it stands.

^ this
Even with a crappy ping you can still do decent :^)

Hence why most people in our guild have grown tired of RvR with ranged comps and are actually looking for challenging ways of playing =P

[Arteker616]

Not really because even now when SH pet haven't stats of 100 RR, Shadow Warrior can't be so much effective like SH is against light armoured Order , because destro are TOOO high armoured and SW physical damages can't do them too much damages.

Ranged KD and stance swap...end of story.

Ranged Disarm and Interrupt and Pet FTW.

Ranged KD, why do people bring it up? SW has one ability that shines, compared to multiple ones for the SH, but it always comes down to the KD. The Squig Herder player is like a miser, he has a ton of gold but is jealous of the SW and his 50 silver! Really?

Stance Swap is not a benefit. Will trade stances for the ability to have all my ranged attacks on one stance just like the SH. Making something out of nothing here? YUP!!!!!!!!!

EDIT:
I love how every time someone calls out the SH class for being OP the same bunch of people get all offended and cry about how the SH is in need of boosting or is not OP or a whole bunch of stuff to downplay the class. Do you think anyone who has played Order (and does not play a SH) believes this? NOPE!
The SH is the most OP class in the game and has needed a NERF since live. Period.

from the man who said magus solo warbands, and who cry in pug sc because he fails to kill a sorc x3 and start droping tells about him being in a premade and who dies to choppa in kadrin valley 1vs 1 .


No shs are not op they have alot of weakness, and they need alot of special talent to be played at their maximum potential . for each teefz yipikaye, leakypants who can kite he **** outta any other toon and kill him there is alot of players who play shs more like a magus.

most of the biggest rr shs on the servers dont hide on zergs or go hide in a keep, they roam with big aao scoring kills . working their asses in the lakes no matter what aao is . in order u rarely see soloers outside whs and okdak(wl) no duo bw healers or sw . thats the difference and the why.

u can go hide in sc or behind the zerg doing xrealm or u can go balls to the walls and score kills with aao . wich is most of these shs do

[Telen]

Lol Kotbs not popular?? it is easy to fight against 4 kotbs in scenarios at USA hours, and i say the minimal amount of kotbs order has in every game is 2 at all hours.

Not as a main clearly or there would be more high rr ones. Most players will have multiple characters and many have all the careers on at least the one faction. They will main what they feel the most affinity towards. Be it art style or like me a nostalgia from playing the TT as a kid and having Teclis as my general most of the time.

I dont know why you argue this point as youre contradicting yourself. You say people play kotbs because its the best tank. But just looking whos online right now only Shaman is a more popular class than SH. So that would make them the most op by your reasoning.

[blaqwar]

No shs are not op they have alot of weakness, and they need alot of special talent to be played at their maximum potential . for each teefz yipikaye, leakypants who can kite he **** outta any other toon and kill him there is alot of players who play shs more like a magus.

most of the biggest rr shs on the servers dont hide on zergs or go hide in a keep, they roam with big aao scoring kills . working their asses in the lakes no matter what aao is . in order u rarely see soloers outside whs and okdak(wl) no duo bw healers or sw . thats the difference and the why.

u can go hide in sc or behind the zerg doing xrealm or u can go balls to the walls and score kills with aao . wich is most of these shs do

I can't remember the last time I saw the SHs you name solo. They just _don't_ run solo because that's not the easiest way to get kills and gain RR. Sorry to burst your bubble there but most SHs don't play the career to roam solo (eventhough it's probably one of the best to do so).

The reason for that is that the only thing high RR players want is more RR. At some point it becomes clear that the only way they can enjoy the game is to see the purple rain, regardless of what it brings (gear/renown points/fame). The path of least resistance towards that goal is zerging the **** out of everything by outnumbering it (be it in a WB or a 6 man). And that's what they do. The added advantage here is that disengaging when facing unfavourable odds and not wasting time running from the WC is very easy for gobbos (Fotm roaming groups these days).

Also small-scale is dead.

[pot]

Ranged KD and stance swap...end of story.

Ranged Disarm and Interrupt and Pet FTW.

Ranged KD, why do people bring it up? SW has one ability that shines, compared to multiple ones for the SH, but it always comes down to the KD. The Squig Herder player is like a miser, he has a ton of gold but is jealous of the SW and his 50 silver! Really?

Stance Swap is not a benefit. Will trade stances for the ability to have all my ranged attacks on one stance just like the SH. Making something out of nothing here? YUP!!!!!!!!!

EDIT:
I love how every time someone calls out the SH class for being OP the same bunch of people get all offended and cry about how the SH is in need of boosting or is not OP or a whole bunch of stuff to downplay the class. Do you think anyone who has played Order (and does not play a SH) believes this? NOPE!
The SH is the most OP class in the game and has needed a NERF since live. Period.

from the man who said magus solo warbands, and who cry in pug sc because he fails to kill a sorc x3 and start droping tells about him being in a premade and who dies to choppa in kadrin valley 1vs 1 .


No shs are not op they have alot of weakness, and they need alot of special talent to be played at their maximum potential . for each teefz yipikaye, leakypants who can kite he **** outta any other toon and kill him there is alot of players who play shs more like a magus.

most of the biggest rr shs on the servers dont hide on zergs or go hide in a keep, they roam with big aao scoring kills . working their asses in the lakes no matter what aao is . in order u rarely see soloers outside whs and okdak(wl) no duo bw healers or sw . thats the difference and the why.

u can go hide in sc or behind the zerg doing xrealm or u can go balls to the walls and score kills with aao . wich is most of these shs do

this is what this topic is saying most other classes doesnt get renowns by strafing left and right dot up run away sure take special talent to do

[GodlessCrom]

Yeah I have nothing against teefz or yipikaye or whomever but they are almost always in a group. They don't solo roam, they gank solo roamers and pugs from the warbands that chase them. Or they do scs.

[Daknallbomb]

Hmm its all about how use youre play time. I leveld my shammy from 51 to 61 (91%) in six days. Just cause of solo dou roam against high aao.