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Shenzi
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TM Keep Defense- Order

Post#1 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:45 am

So Destro set siege on hill and blast Order off the outer wall of inner TM. How many more advantages do they need?
DW set cannon to blast BO below them and knock order off the bridge when they are running supplies. CW set cannon at
keep to blast BO. KV and Reikland just a short run from their wc's to their keeps. Hmmm.

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Panzerkasper
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Re: TM Keep Defense- Order

Post#2 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:39 am

Shenzi wrote:So Destro set siege on hill and blast Order off the outer wall of inner TM. How many more advantages do they need?
DW set cannon to blast BO below them and knock order off the bridge when they are running supplies. CW set cannon at
keep to blast BO. KV and Reikland just a short run from their wc's to their keeps. Hmmm.
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wiscel
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Re: TM Keep Defense- Order

Post#3 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:37 am

In one of the earliest versions on the live server there were fixed spots in and around keep where people could place their cannons. Although I hated this because in fights the spots were targets as well and you'd tab them. It could be an idea?
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faiden
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Re: TM Keep Defense- Order

Post#4 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:42 am

I think you should have a look at the maps again and you will clearly see that most maps are in favor to order. Look closely when it comes to keep,BO and warcamp locations and where the postern doors are placed. Advantages everywhere even high grounds.
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Buran
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Re: TM Keep Defense- Order

Post#5 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:40 am

2faiden:
that most maps are in favor to order.
can you list them? couse i do not agree with u.
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megadeath
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Re: TM Keep Defense- Order

Post#6 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:36 am

Buran wrote:2faiden:
that most maps are in favor to order.
can you list them? couse i do not agree with u.
CW - order camp is near their keep, while destro has to go to their keep trough a bottleneck.
Praag - order gets 1 BO near their keep, while destro has to go between BOs and their keep trough a bottleneck,
Reikland - same thing as Praag. Also getting in to destro keep is hard because both main gates and posterns are right next to order WC

Caledor - bullshit of a zone. Order gets 3 BOs next to their keep. Also getting to order keep from order CW is extremely easy. Eastmost BO is cutoff by order keep. Destro keep is impossible to reach because of absurdly long bottleneck.
Dragonwake is actually balanced
Eataine is pretty balanced aswell.

KV - order bias at its finest. 2 BOs right next to their keep, one of them between the keep and WC and second in the tunnel which makes it extremely easy to defend.
TM - zone itself is pretty balanced. Tough getting in destro keep is much more harder because posterns and main gates are really close to each other (not the case with order keep)
BC - should be outright removed from the game. Order gets 3 BOs right next to their keep and posterns on the other side of the map from main gates which makes camping them impossible.


You would notice such things if you did get close to destro keeps once in a full moon.
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Haojin
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Re: TM Keep Defense- Order

Post#7 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:43 am

Buran wrote:2faiden:
that most maps are in favor to order.
can you list them? couse i do not agree with u.
Lemme help you,

-KV : Maybe worst map for destro in this system, Icehearth and Hardwater BO's near to N keep and warcamp.
-TM : Keep on highground and got access from pve. BO status are equal.
-BC : S Keep is really good for destro but BO locations are mess. 3 BO's near to Order keep and warcamp.

-Praag: Kinda balanced. Armory is a good for Destro, GY is good for Order.
-CW: Statue of Everchosen- S keep - Shrine of Time got both access from west and east posterns. For the Destro keep, Massif and Bramble only feeded by west postern.
-Reikland: Manor and Quarry is order friendly, Reikwatch destro friendly, Runehammer is equal BO's for both sides.

-Caledor: Order keep feeded by 3 BO's [ SoC , SV and SS ]. Destro keep is undefendable if order camp middle. If order warcamp camped, they could aid the keep from DW.
-DW: Destro favored cause of the BO locations.
-Eataine: Balanced.
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Panzerkasper
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Re: TM Keep Defense- Order

Post#8 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:46 am

Both south BOs in Praag are in favor of order
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Buran
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Re: TM Keep Defense- Order

Post#9 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:18 pm

2megadeath und Haojin:
-KV : is the order last zone. Yes it is simple to got ressourses from our 2 BOs(IC and HF), but destruction can block 2 BO (DC ans GJ). Who can controll the Iceheart crossing, that is usually get more chance to win.
-TM : Balanced for destruction and order
-BC : Destrucrion has the good location of keep. Destruction has the near another WC with SBP in TM, Destruction can always uses the PvE ways to take MP. And of couse who controll the centher, that is usually get more chance to win.

-Reikland: is the order last zone. Destruction can block the ways to south, and the order's keep has the worst plan to join order players for defending.
-Praag: Balanced for destruction and order. This is the best map for gank, defending and attacking.
-CW: Destruction has 2 BOs near with keep and WC is located near the Statue. It is a simple to block the ways at center and holding zone.

-Caledor: Who blocks the centher, that is usually get more chance to win. The centher is the key to controll 3 BOs. Very hard to take the keeps becouse the other fraction closes the centher
-DW: Destruction with the keep and canons now controlls 3 BOs, now it is the worst zone for order.
-Eataine: is the order last zone. Balanced for destruction and order..

We dislike CW, DW, Caledor and BC, becouse organised partyes can break the keep attak.
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megadeath
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Re: TM Keep Defense- Order

Post#10 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:41 pm

Buran wrote:organised partyes can break the keep attak.
But you never attack. I dont remember when was the last time i defended a keep with less then 300 aao.
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