What is happening to T3?

[Kattastrof]

Sad to lose some good and fun map, why not including them in the big War conflict.
The Tier 4 is more fun on one point, the aim of Tier 4 is to lock all map, is a cooperating Tiers.
If you want more players on Tiers 3 (Tiers 2) you must bring more fun in theirs aims, make a bonus mode like take all Tiers 3 keeps during... give something fun or a new aim every months...
Or lock all T1, Tier 2, Tier 3 keep Greenskin (for example) give a special tick and medals for players...

WAAAGH !!!

So you are a easy ride xrealmer?
Because those are the only ones your sugestion will aid.. Oh and it will drain t1-t3 dry of players who have toons in all tiers

[flintboth]

You speak like a policeman on a "game" forum, can I give my opinion without any stupid accussation, if you don't like it don't be aggressive, try to be constructive. Thank you.
Explain me why people giving their free time in a game don't like the news and fresh change, more opportunity... more cooperation and more fun ?

You think only for rewards, gears, RR, xp, inf, medals... but there is different players and some of them here are not playing for rewards. Some of us just look to make new and refreshing encounter, live epic and intense situation in the fight with them.

I don't think my suggestions are good, but it's a forum, gestapo accussation **** you !

[sotora]

T3 is very fun, but yeah population issue hurts it. Good population in T3 happens, but rarely.

Decrease influence needed in T3 for RVR gear + either increase medallion gain there or vastly decrease T3 rvr set price seem like something that could be tried.

[sabat80]

How about to make T4 only for lvl 40 characters? and than T3 will be to 39 and population will naturally increase?

[Oldschool]

T3 is a game breaker. You have to wait sooo long if you want to a SC or to make RvR that you get bored and log off.
You have to XP grind your way up to T4 and in T4 you have to suffer in SCs that you have to fight full equipt T4 Toons Lvl 40 when you are only Lvl 32...
What is senseless and makes no fun.

There we NEED new game design for T3.
Some good ideas were mentioned here before.

We have to see some Points:
New Player get bored and log of cause T3 is game breaking for anybody of us who want PvP and not to Play an asia grinder...
What didnt help the Server to grow Population at all.

This game has no real use of T3 and the grind and suffering from Level 22 to 40.
If you want to have End game fun and enjoy the rvr and SC you have to Level.
T1 is to learn about your char and skills and to test the game and have fun in T1. T2 gets started with Castle open RvR stuff etc..
T3 is absolut not needed and we have to have a Option (XP Trainer) to get from Lvl 22 to Level 40 per XP boost.

If we want more T40 open RvR we have to have new T3 Design until Level 40.
Iam new to this Server and in the Moment my first toon gets Level 22 my XP grind strarted cause I Need Levels....and I cant Level in PvP and SC cause T3 is almost empty and this complete Thing is a game breaker and ruins the fun to start WAR again.
Now Iam Level 32 and started hopefully my first SC...what plops up realy fast.
But....I was the only low Level in this Scenario.....all the others are Level 40 except one Level 37 toon...... you can imagine that this wasnt fun at all....with my Level 32 toon.
Game breaker as well. I dont want to Play a Asia grinder and I dont want to Play if Iam used to be the worst char ever in my Group.

Server have in total not enought Player at Level 40 to make Level 40 only Scenarios, cause then we have the same like in T3 for the lvl 32-39 Player.

I see just the Point of giving us a Level Boost for the People who wants to get to Level 40.
Iam more up to fight in SCs and RvR for my Renown Points at same level like others then to be f... up with XP grinding from Level 22 to lvl 40.

[templario]

I agree something must be done.

Maybe go back to the old system (more gains for BO taken)

Devs made a decission that (altough I prefer old style) works for tiers with healthy pop but it is a disaster for a tier so empty as t3.

I disagree with T3 being so useless, back on live some of the best fights I had were in T3 it was fun cos in the last year of the game people you fight with weren´t wearing warpforge or similar and was always full of peeps.

It saddens me to see it like that. I think all tiers should be fun again and I certainly don´t play for rewards, just for fun.

[Kattastrof]

Ruin fragments from keep bags?
Specific quests which unlocks after filling t3 inf bars.
1.5x rp in t3
Or make t3 a lul place with skavens, random events and very rare monsters on hero level. Like Vampires, greater demons or why not gametest pq and dungeon bosses.
When I was in t3 as my WL, me and my friends made order stop attacking a keep in elf to attack the level 50 hero in saphery keep
Even some destro came to help
Was awsome until iluminati stopped us!

[Fousek]

I think there is multiple things what is happening and why is population in T3 such a problem.

1. Server statistics - Yes its very cool that we can see how many players play and where... But first thing i do and many other players (i am 100% sure its true) is check server statistic and population % in tier i want to play and if there is more than 10% imbalance between realms i simply do not log in and rather do something else.

Solution: hiding exact % in each tier might help?

2.Its very hard to join keep defence against greater numbers (which is time you should be encouraged to do so). Last time i was trying to join keep defence in Talabecland during heavy AAO its literally impossible if destro is killing any reinforcements at side doors its over... because even if you make it behind first wall you still get teleported back to into the warcamp so there is no way how to join keep defence if you login late. There is multiple keeps thats hard to reach as defender if enemy realm have greater numbers and is actively trying to kill any reinforcements. At some point people simply just give up and let zerglings have fun with PVDoor.

Solution: if your realm is outnumbered open portal in warcamp that gets you into the keep.

3. Not rewarding enough - its more effective to leech as low lvl in T4 then trying to catch up with renown in T3... and farming medals to save them for T4 is pointless because of low gain and high exchange ratio and prices of T4 items... inf is too slow (player reach lvl32 before they finish influ even it they are trying) and most of those items you get are gonna be replaced very soon so once again its not worth the effort.

Solution: make T3 more rewarding it might help?

4. Time - plenty of times i seen attacking warband gets outnumbered by defenders and wiped (at this point attackers should back off and go defend their keep). In reality most of the time big part of warband log off because it takes atleast 25-35 minutes before original defending side reach your keep and start attacking...

Solution: speed up phase switching between attackers and defenders by allowing attackers to cap multiple BO at same time without loosing any reward (people are greedy they want to be present at every single BO cap to avoid loosing any inf/rr) by rewarding everyone in Zone for capping BO no matter where they are. instead of encouraging them to stay in one big zerg and taking BOs one by one and afking on each for 4 minutes because you get reward only if you are present at BO that is capped.

[normanis]

that why t3 was from 22-39 in old days, because to avoid emptyness. i think best was bue t1/t2/t3 gear for gold like it was (if renown allow it). because u no need farm medalions and spend tham into useles gear. and when u reach t4 u have less medalions and cant bue decent gear. offc there is also the shadow side if u bue gear for gold than prices in trader will be again high and money duping brrrrr, btw for ruin gear in gold bag isnt bretter add 5 gold medals , sometimes u win gold bag and there is item what u have i have been situation i have same tipe of armor like 4 in row.
i know its not about thread t3 , byt still i have been in situations where ppl do t4 pq with 22 level. evryone whant to reach t4 where is all action.

[sotora]

Another thing that comes in mind is to selectively decrease xp from T3 kill quest but in return vastly increase rvr influence they award.