Will oil damage be mitigated by armor?

[Olszewski]

To be honest oil would 1 shot any of us in live with our current gear.

That is far from truth. The difference between oil damage being mitigated by armor and being morale damage is insane.
Im not saying it should do just as little damage as it does on live, but it definitely should do less than it does currently. At least to ram. You shouldnt have to wait 3 minutes to redeploy because it got oneshotted by someone clicking a button.

The number can also be adjusted once we have access to higher level of gear and it stops being useful, thats the beauty of playing here tbh.

Its the truth. If i tried to do damage on the door on my slayer i knew i had a 50/50 chance of getting out before oil came down. U need to take into consideration the current gear we are in now is not the same from live. Oil one shoted ppl. Im sure you didnt read all that i posted to part destro took the keep even when oil was being poured and them putting a ram up many times. Because they brought the numbers to do so. So you want to take a keep? bring the numbers to do so. Small group wont do the job. All i see is less than 20 ppl of destro trying to take a keep. Not going to happen.

[Tesq]

Oil damage was mitigated by armor in the live game. That is why you had tanks no the ram. Are you planning to implement that here?

Prove it, link i video or something because if the development team went off everything the players assert was the case on live everyone would be one shotting each other

slow video to 0.5 speed put 720p look at which hunter debuff ui -->nothing get show---> take 700/1300 damges by oil, if you look further in the video you see ppl using oil.

and it's a which hunter, a tank took even lower damages and here we are so back in time that there was a troll instead cannons on chaos keeps so oil never done these crazy damages....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVlf6nC3OuM

[Eathisword]

Oil damage was mitigated by armor in the live game. That is why you had tanks no the ram. Are you planning to implement that here?

Prove it, link i video or something because if the development team went off everything the players assert was the case on live everyone would be one shotting each other

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVlf6nC3OuM

That, right there...

If you analyse that, you see when he opens combat log at 0:36 that right after getting debuffed by What Block, the log shows : Heavy oil boiling oil hits you for 1463, 361 mitigated.

Then, at 0:38, before getting armor debuffed, combat log shows : Heavy chaos oil boiling oil critically hits you for 1726, 900 mitigated. This show a roughly 35%-36% mitigation by the WH, which is coherent with physical damage. T4 light armor provides around 2k armor, which is about 35% mitigation.

Oil was mitigated by armor on live. All tanks know that. And it was a normal ranged attack. It could crit, be blocked or dodged. It was not an unmitigated morale type of damage.

Oil should be a mean of defense, it doesn't have to be like on live. But as of right now, it kills RvR totally.

Edit : Combat logs also shows that oil ticked every 2 seconds. Not every second. Log show, 21: 38: 35 for first tick, then 21: 38: 37 for second tick.

[Morf]

The damage of it right now seems fine if you add the mitigation from armor, it ticks every 2 seconds and being able to block and dodge it, it should hit very hard, non tanks should be at risk when hot oil is pouring down from above.
I actually didnt realize it was classed as morale damage until yesterday when the tank in group popped imaculate defense, we pushed under the oil and died instantly

[Toldavf]

Oil damage is what 3k morale damage every second atm? I think even a warp forged healer would struggle to live through that.

[Tesq]

3k x tick x3 TICK IN less than 3 sec=9K DAMAGES x9 player =27k damages not mitigable using oil

it's just like add a full warband pushing out every time with morales 4 from keep.......

In live oil was a crap k but here it's jsut insane, make it remove % life and not doing raw damage so dosen't matter who or how many times ppl will grow stonger.

[Pixie126]

I never run the numbers live or now. But, I can say that as a tank (and a squishy one at that) I could stand in the oil, needing a heal now and or then, but never getting 1 shotted or 2 shotted by the oil alone (Khaine spec swordmaster). That kind of damage healing cannot keep up against. My husband's anecdote from healing tanks on the ram live (he was a heal specced archmage), was he could pretty much just group heal and single target anyone who needed a bit more. No real problem keeping the tanks up on the ram under oil.

[Zanilos]

Oil damage was mitigated by armor in the live game. That is why you had tanks no the ram. Are you planning to implement that here?

Prove it, link i video or something because if the development team went off everything the players assert was the case on live everyone would be one shotting each other

Says the guy that made a new Item sets that will increase players damage EVEN more. Then made LotD esc jewelry.

[Dabbart]

Armor mitigation will help alot, as would dodge/block.

I remember T4 oil wrecking MDPS in 1-2 shots. Oil was always a priority to take out, but it didn't smash the Ram as fast as it does now, which imo is the biggest issue. Players can be rezzed, wiping rams can kill the siege. What I remmeber though, was that using the ram gave some type of buff against the oil damage. But this is all years ago, and maybe I am mistaking RL ram usage.

Also, people seem to be used to the bullshit t3 "tactics" that have been in use. If you don't want to worry about oil, send in the MDPS to kill the Vendor. Camp your MDPS at the top gate, spam Gheal and hold. Bring more than 2+wbs , and know that just cause you can lock this zone, you need to be coordinated on taking the NEXT zone well before you take the keep in this one.

Plan, organize, and you can be successful. Mindless zerging has a lower chance of success with each advanced tier you enter. Higher ranks simply gives more abilities and tactics to deal with em.