Forum Order consensus vs reality. Why is that?

[freshour]

I think the reason he brought up unused abilities because it would be less "creation" but I thought I read somewhere that editing the tooltip of a move is pretty difficult so idk. Anyway, editing a current encounter over creating an entirely new one seems a little easier to pull of pending it is even possible.

[th3gatekeeper]

I think the reason he brought up unused abilities because it would be less "creation" but I thought I read somewhere that editing the tooltip of a move is pretty difficult so idk. Anyway, editing a current encounter over creating an entirely new one seems a little easier to pull of pending it is even possible.

Correct,

I was merely suggesting ADDING TO the current abilities however adding a CD or any other balance suggestions to make it fair.

not looking to make tanks OP, just more fun.

[Scrilian]

Fair enough, I didn't actually expect anything really at this point, must've just the "seethe with rage" provoked my with a rather out of place reply, but my head just can't get around the issue.
Hopefully everything will work out Ok and its just stupid me and my ridiculous concerns. Again, I have all my faith in you guys, srsly, no trolling or whatever, but something just pushes me to think that you are missing something and somehow I feel responsible by not addressing it simply because how dear this game was to my heart and how much influenced it me.
I'm no native speaker but this guy said it much better than me in his video (not related to MMORPGs but still).

@Murs
Oh, puglord, please

[Dreadspectre]

Wait there's a shortage of tanks/MDPS on Order side? Since when?

All I see are Slayer DPS trains on my poor Zealot with the occasional Pouncing WL. I generally see at least 1 KOTBS and IB's are in full supply. SM's are hit or miss.

[mursie]

Oh, puglord, please

That's Mr. Puglord to you. And please what? I said no offense.

[Scrilian]

Please, have it easy on my silly ass, Mr.

[freshour]

I feel like as a Zealot if you get trained hard once in five games. The other five games went smoothly, you will tend to remember the 1 game you got smashed. So this happens 4-5 days in a row. in reality 80% of your matches you wrecked them and they probably had little to no tanks/mdps. But that 20%... man did it piss you off.

That is how our brains work. They remember things that caused some sort of emotion. Negative ones tend to stick a little more than positive ones. Which is why I wrote down with little checks game that I had 2 or less Guards in the entire SC. So if my memory failed me I could look at my little list. Did the same WL's. I think you'd realize that being pounced happens a lot less than you think. And also that order melee trains are few and far between. But when you do run into them it is usually one group, maybe ie. 1-2 WL's causing all this pain rather than many of them.

Can always use DB addon to get an idea of the classes you played against/killed you. If only it showed all previous team comps I would love to post them. It is nothing against you or any other WL fearing people. It happens once, it seems like it happened more later on b/c you think, "Why else would I remember it so vividly?"

Same with Ironbreaker. They can be so awesome to have on your team, I see you play a 2hWP. Iron breakers are arguably the most amazing thing in the world to have with you. Naturally you would remember having such a great companion at your side over anything else for that matter.

Again, that is how our brains work. It is the same reason why we don't remember the amount of times we walk through our front doors. But remember all the times a cute girl smiled at us. One happens all the time and isn't worth remembering (for me its the girl OBVS!!!), the other is so rare that it stands out be it in a good or bad way.

[Dreadspectre]

No I'm pretty sure Order have plenty of MDPS/Tanks in every SC I play....I'm not really getting where you guys think no one plays them?

Outside of the oddball matches with 3 BW's or 3 SW's, I see a healthy mix of MDPS/Tanks and Healers of choice. I think the only class that I would say is underplayed right now is WH. Few and far between sometimes.

[th3gatekeeper]

Wait there's a shortage of tanks/MDPS on Order side? Since when?

All I see are Slayer DPS trains on my poor Zealot with the occasional Pouncing WL. I generally see at least 1 KOTBS and IB's are in full supply. SM's are hit or miss.

You must play during that ellusive 25:00-26:00 period then. Because I have played almost every time zone for the past 1 month plus and havnt seen any melee trains Order runs unless I start them on my Knight or SM.

meanwhile "generally" speaking (which is always dangerous to say) I see 3+ Sorcs in nearly EVERY SC I play, combined with usually 2-3 DoKs then supported by 3+ tanks with 3+ MDPS.

Now, I may not be everygame. Such as in 1 game ill see a 6 man Melee train combined with 2 DoKs backline healing. While the next itll just be like 3 tanks upfront doing nothing but 3 sorcs in the back FF nuking everyone.

So of the combos its usually 3 of the 4 of :
- 2-3 Doks
- 2-3 Sorcs
- 3 SNB Tanks with maybe a Chosen 2H mixed in
- 3 MDPS

Where as on order you will usually see some combo of:
3 tanks - 2 of which are 2H spec
1 SL OR! 1 WL
3 DPS AM
1 <max leveled RP/WP
5+ WH/SWs per game

The games I am in where order wins? Its usually because:
- Destro had either no Sorcs or No DoKs on the other team.
- We were a PM versus PUGs on Destro.

Thats just my experience... I play usually between:
12:30pm GMT - 2:30pm GMT
4:30 GMT - 6:30 GMT
8:30 GMT - 10:30 GMT
Midnight GMT - 2:00am GMT

So a pretty diverse play schedule.

[freshour]

Exxxxxactly. Lets wait for the WP/WL crocodile tears that usually follow logic and reason.