[Witch Hunter] Incognito

Discuss Knight of the Blazing Sun, Bright Wizard, Witch Hunter, and Warrior Priest.
Forum rules
Before posting in this forum, please read the Terms of Use.

Optional: Start your topic title with your class in brackets (e.g., [Shaman]). It helps others find your post faster.
User avatar
Reesh
Posts: 645

Re: [Witch Hunter] Incognito

Post#11 » Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:01 pm

Genisaurus wrote:
zabis wrote:Any new news on the opposing enemy dots on the map? I want to play my WE badly, but not worth it until this is fixed.
With one of the recent patches, we've fleshed out packet logging functionality for GMs to use. Not only will this help make their jobs easier, it also lets us track down what data in which packet is causing that problem.

Last I heard we've isolated the packets causing the problem, but I couldn't give you an exact timeline on a fix, save that's it's sooner now than it was before. ;)
Great news! Playing hide and seek was cool in this game :-D
Image

Ads
User avatar
zabis
Posts: 1215

Re: [Witch Hunter] Incognito

Post#12 » Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:27 pm

Genisaurus wrote:
zabis wrote:Any new news on the opposing enemy dots on the map? I want to play my WE badly, but not worth it until this is fixed.
With one of the recent patches, we've fleshed out packet logging functionality for GMs to use. Not only will this help make their jobs easier, it also lets us track down what data in which packet is causing that problem.

Last I heard we've isolated the packets causing the problem, but I couldn't give you an exact timeline on a fix, save that's it's sooner now than it was before. ;)
This is all I wanted to hear :D
Soulcheg wrote:Want mirrored classes - play chess.
Genisaurus wrote:You are not entitled to Best-in-Slot gear just because you log on.
#266

User avatar
Specialpatrol
Posts: 306

Re: [Witch Hunter] Incognito

Post#13 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:53 pm

This ability really needs to be fixed, so you can't go stealth while having dots on you. On live dots/dmg broke your stealth.

It's completely ridiculous that a WH simply can stealth out of a fight with 3-4 dots on them - without those dots bringing them back into sight.

The same of course goes for the equivalent WE ability, if it does the same.
APONYMOUS l WP l R40 l RR8X
BRAKEDOWN l KOTBS l R40 l RR8X
BOILING l BW l R40 l RR8X
PUFFED l SLY l R40 l RR8X
RHYTHM l AM l R40 l RR8X
EEWULL l DOK l R3X l RR4X

User avatar
Tklees
Posts: 675

Re: [Witch Hunter] Incognito

Post#14 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:56 pm

Specialpatrol wrote:This ability really needs to be fixed, so you can't go stealth while having dots on you. On live dots/dmg broke your stealth.

It's completely ridiculous that a WH simply can stealth out of a fight with 3-4 dots on them - without those dots bringing them back into sight.

The same of course goes for the equivalent WE ability, if it does the same.
that is a completely false statement. Dots applied before stealth do not break it. Only DD does, aoe (has a chance to break it not sure of percentage) and ST will always break it.
Tklees Chatoullier
Gagirbinn

User avatar
Specialpatrol
Posts: 306

Re: [Witch Hunter] Incognito

Post#15 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:03 pm

Tklees wrote:
Specialpatrol wrote:This ability really needs to be fixed, so you can't go stealth while having dots on you. On live dots/dmg broke your stealth.

It's completely ridiculous that a WH simply can stealth out of a fight with 3-4 dots on them - without those dots bringing them back into sight.

The same of course goes for the equivalent WE ability, if it does the same.
that is a completely false statement. Dots applied before stealth do not break it. Only DD does, aoe (has a chance to break it not sure of percentage) and ST will always break it.
Didn't dots use to have at least a chance of breaking stealth? Was pretty sure it did. If not I of course stand corrected.

But I have been in melee fights with WHs that seemingly could go into stealth with lots of dots and direct dmg going on. Don't recall ever seeing that before. And it seems a bit broken.
APONYMOUS l WP l R40 l RR8X
BRAKEDOWN l KOTBS l R40 l RR8X
BOILING l BW l R40 l RR8X
PUFFED l SLY l R40 l RR8X
RHYTHM l AM l R40 l RR8X
EEWULL l DOK l R3X l RR4X

User avatar
Azarael
Posts: 5332

Re: [Witch Hunter] Incognito

Post#16 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:08 pm

Incognito and Shadow Prowler provide 2 seconds of grace when the cast completes and you are put into stealth. Any attacks hitting during this 2 second grace period will not break them.

User avatar
Scrilian
Posts: 1570

Re: [Witch Hunter] Incognito

Post#17 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:12 pm

Specialpatrol wrote:Didn't dots use to have at least a chance of breaking stealth?
Only in WOW, not in WAR.
Вальтер Рыжий RU => Gaziraga BW, Valefar WL, Lovejoy
Retired
ex-Greenfire/Invasion RvR leader
Wonderful RvR music videos ;)

User avatar
noisestorm
Posts: 1727

Re: [Witch Hunter] Incognito

Post#18 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:12 pm

Stealth had a LOT of issues with its initial implementation, just to list it for now how it works:
*Untargeted AoE will not break stealth.
*Projectiles will no longer break stealth upon the first 2 seconds of stealth like they used to.
*Every normal AA or targeteted Ability will break stealth instantly.
*Init on WH/WE actually has a use.
*Already applied Dot ticks do not break stealth, since it only breaks on directed Spells/Attacks.


the only thing that is different from live is that you have a minimal timeframe to not get unstealthed, but due to the laggy nature of the server and its playerbase this was a heavily needed QoL fix. Compared to every other MPDS that has charge, stealth is just subpar in the first place. Any anyone calling it OP or broken actually has no clue in my opinion. You can call it at least viable/valuable/useable for now.


Edit: ah yea aza was a tad faster with the grace-timer.

Ads
User avatar
Specialpatrol
Posts: 306

Re: [Witch Hunter] Incognito

Post#19 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:15 pm

Yeah, I just went looking for old Warhammer threads about this ability - and apparently it was also like this on live. My bad - and I stand corrected.

So apologies for my little complaint. Please ignore it. I just gotta hit harder and faster next time!
APONYMOUS l WP l R40 l RR8X
BRAKEDOWN l KOTBS l R40 l RR8X
BOILING l BW l R40 l RR8X
PUFFED l SLY l R40 l RR8X
RHYTHM l AM l R40 l RR8X
EEWULL l DOK l R3X l RR4X

User avatar
Scrilian
Posts: 1570

Re: [Witch Hunter] Incognito

Post#20 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:18 pm

I remember on live Magus Seed of Chaos sometimes used to put me out of stealth,when I think it shouldn't have. Can't check or confirm the same interaction here, can anyone test it out?
Вальтер Рыжий RU => Gaziraga BW, Valefar WL, Lovejoy
Retired
ex-Greenfire/Invasion RvR leader
Wonderful RvR music videos ;)

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: ChickenLipsRfun2 and 2 guests