Class Leaders

[Tklees]

^ Yeah archetypes could work as well. Only thing is some classes within the same archetype are so different to one another that it could warrant separate subforums.

Serious question. How do you accidentally delete a toon? Don't you still have to type YES when doing it? Not trolling in any way here sincerely curious.

[Tklees]

I think the best way to do this would be subforums for mdps, tanks, rdps, and heals. That way the class leads from each class in the game can calaborate on answers. This should create an unbiased solution due to there being 4 players from each realm monitoring and helping give answers. Just my two cents.

I don't know nearly enough of the euro community to make suggestions as to who these people would be but think a structure like this could help

[peterthepan3]

i literally have (had) about 10 toons and wanted to remove several, but they are all over the place in character selection screen, and instead of deleting the slayer i deleted my order main. lol. **** happens.

I agree with what you said. However I would postulate and suggest that several people from each class should be chosen: not so much as 'leaders'; more a guide/facilitator.

[Shadowgurke]

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oh sweetie! I was eagerly anticipating a message from the Messiah himself! Bugsy was accidentally deleted (I even made a thread about it - surprised you didn't comment!) unfortunately
> beats a semi-group (consisting of a DPS WP) with his uber l337 premade
> shittalks several guildies from opposite guild (at least several members reported having received insults and threats from you)
> plays WE with his premade designed to assist him for 2 weeks and thinks he's God's gift to WAR

you're a good player, honey, but you need to come back to reality and realise that you are not as good as you purport yourself to be; anyone with tanks and healers as good as yours can create some good results!
please challenge sek on a sorc/WE/SW/slayer (heck anything), ensure both of you have the same assisting/molly cuddling from tanks/healers, and come back to me.

oh and before I turn off the keyboard warrior in me (as this is stupid, but you gave me the carrot!) you're a pretty average calibre WE compared to others.

I can't wait to see what you say back to me, sugar!

ON TOPIC:
I like the idea of class leaders. However, I would say that these leaders must:
* have good experience with said class - both on ROR and on live;
* have credibility with said class, i.e. they are known for playing the class well;
* have utilised the class in all RVR platforms, such as WBs and 6man groups

I would argue that those players with more experience in roaming with a group of 6 should take priority, given that it is a more challenging environment and really tests one's class - and how to synergise it with others - to the limit.

*insert random popcorn gif here*

I feel like this will result in a forum ban further down the road. On topic, it would be benefitial if we could get some serious suggestions for class leaders that also feel like actually doing it-

[Jail]

Penril

[Bretin]

oh sweetie! I was eagerly anticipating a message from the Messiah himself! Bugsy was accidentally deleted (I even made a thread about it - surprised you didn't comment!) unfortunately

u wot m8?

shittalks several guildies from opposite guild (at least several members reported having received insults and threats from you)

m8 you're the only one who ever made it on my ingame ignore due to your wall of pm when you either come up with an excuse for why you are dying or a 6vs6 offer which you will never come to or nowadays with insults after your guildleader crashed the game on purpose during a sc while being ChCh. All i did was telling you that i will get him banned the next time my stream is up.

your accusations towards me about your guildmember are affecting Gretal (IB), Charisma (WP) and your beloved guildleader Jiz.

About Gretal, he started calling us "enigma noobs".
Gretal: We trolled him with :^) and "noob down". After that we had a normal talk and he even asked us to play with us.

Charisma: We heard he/she said bullshit about us on advice and is the one with the biggest mouth. We trolled him with exactly the same phrases as Gretal. We had a talk and it's all good.

Beloved Gamecrasher: He dodged every SC after the one he crashed. I pm'd him with exactly the following words "nice to see you dodge, so you have at least not to crash your game m8". He responded and even admitted that he crashed the game by saying "I did not miss anything, did i?"

I lol'd at him. If you push this any further you will have literally every screenshot on this forum and we will see where this will lead to.

plays WE with his premade designed to assist him for 2 weeks and thinks he's God's gift to WAR

who did you ask how to spec and play the WL and what gear to use? i guess it was me, why did you not ask your beloved brother mate or anyone else?

you're a good player, honey

i know, thanks.

please challenge sek on a sorc/WE/SW/slayer (heck anything), ensure both of you have the same assisting/molly cuddling from tanks/healers, and come back to me.

no need for a e-peen battle between me and your brother only because his unleashed dog is asking for it. and why do you come up with a e-peen contest when i tell you that i will get him banned for crashing his client and leaving his premade alone. the attitude your beloved brother shows is simply egoistic and dumb, he left his premade alone in a sc to avoid one death when he was to dumb to avoid a ChCh close to the spawn by a better positioning. few days later i asked one of your guildies about why sekundus again dodged while the rest of the party joined and guess what? he didn't know. Sek was not saying a word, letting everyone join while dodging himself. that's a great attitude and definitely something i can't compete with. he is really a god in this game when it comes to leave friends alone due to the fact he can't hande a ingame death.

oh and before I turn off the keyboard warrior in me (as this is stupid, but you gave me the carrot!) you're a pretty average calibre WE compared to others.

how offensive, i'm gonna cut myself.


as i said above: push it further and you will see literally every screenshot between all the whispers i had to anyone within your guild. unless you can come up with any evidenced proof i'd suggest to shut your mouth. we all know that your beloved friend is nothing but a known bugabuser here who got exactly banned for the same reason for what he is still doing and a known duper on live.

now you can whisper me again to stop calling out your guild on forums or made another salty post and we'll see what's happen

[mursie]

> plays WE with his premade designed to assist him for 2 weeks and thinks he's God's gift to WAR

you're a good player, honey, but to think you rival certain others is beyond a joke. anyone with tanks and healers as good as yours can create some good results!

WoW! - This post really is thought provoking. I had never thought about it before, but now it seems almost ridiculously clear. Maybe it isn't the fact that the individual dps player is great, but rather, maybe it's the fact that the individual dps player has FOUR support classes willing to continually log in, day after day, supporting an individual that makes him/her great and gives him/her the delusion of grandeur that we so often see in our community boards.

This is some ground breaking stuff. I noticed, for instance, that when I have guard and two healers I tend to do EXTREMELY well in RoR scenarios. I'm talking 0 deaths, 20+ kb's, Top Dmg, absolute rick-roll level sh%t. However, when i solo que on the EXACT same class, my results tend to diminish.

At first, I suspected this had more to do with the fact that the people queing against me when I was solo were just WAY better than those queing against me when I was grouped. But now, after this amazing enlightenment you have noted, perhaps it is instead the FOUR individuals that were previously supporting me when I was grouped that were actually making me look so freaking AWESOME! and when I'm solo the advantages of those supporting group players are much less present (occasionally pug heals do ok, almost never does a pug tank, but no-where close does pug support come to the coordination and support of four dedicated grouped support players).

Admittedly, I don't post screenshots and videos of all my premade triumph roflstomps. I know I know, I should. I should probably also tell everyone how great I am, and how bad they are. Heck, I should even tell veteran white lion/choppa players (I never played white lion/choppa on live) how these classes work and what they can/can't do in T4. More-over, I likely should be the authoritative source for how good/bad white lion/choppa abilities are that I have never played with (33+ abilities I've yet to get nor ever used since I didn't play WL/choppa on live). I say I should be this authoritative source because look at my grouped play results, it's absolute roflstomp. I mean seriously.

But Forget that for a moment, and let's get back to the meat of the matter. What if, and this is really hard to imagine, but what if I did make all these grandeur statements and post all my roflstomp screenshots/vids and it turns out that it has nothing to do with my delusional perceived skill at all **GASP**. Instead, what if it really has all to do with the fact that I'm grouped with FOUR dedicated support players, playing a private server game, against a very small population, that has little organized resistance for the majority of sc's / rvr that occur. ***MIND BLOWN****

Basically, and bear with me here because I'm just spit balling, I'm theorizing that maybe as much as I want to believe I'm the GREATEST OF ALL TIME, maybe it has all to do with the fact that my triumphs are the result of premade coordinated group play against the masses of unorganized pugs that fill the majority of sc's/rvr instead of my inherently awesome skill? I know, this is about as laughable a theory as you could get, that somehow my premade group triumphs are a result of just farming unorganized pugs, but when you look at the evidence noted in the above quote, it does begin to border on the realm of possibility.

I think some additional testing is required here but I definitely think we might be on to something.

**EDIT** - wow, some additional evidence backing this awesome new theory. Just played against some people while solo qued on the WL. My team and I didn't do so great. I topped our team's score and kills but we lost pretty handedly and the other team had higher #'s. BUT, here is the real kicker, the opposing players I played against were some of the EXACT same players I had roflstomped the night before in a premade group. I know - not totally conclusive just yet, but this is gaining traction.

[Tklees]

I can't even begin to imagine how big all of your heads will be by the time we are fully operational... This is pure gold. It's a video game kids. Take a chill pill and have some fun.

[SigmarPriest]

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