Dps healers in Scenarios

[Shineobi]

Scenario matchmaking has been alot better with the recent changes.

Though DPS healers should not be able to que into a game where the other side has no DPS healer and/or Healers aswell.

Example:

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[M0rw47h]

Your SM could outheal them.

[agemennon675]

I agree with OP, DPS healers can swap their dps tactics in game and play as a healer making the game impossible for the opposition without a healer, either make it so we cannot change tactics inside the scenario(we already have a system that drops queue when respeccing) or match dps healers with other dps healers. This is not a huge problem but a problem nonetheless.

[Jastojan]

I think, they should.
Are they DPS? Yes, so what is the problem?

I dont remember to see any of this kind of hate in any other MMO game.

If I could give an example, I will put a WoW.
You could play shaman, priest, druid (I put them here because they have a healer builds) but I never saw a hate towards them if played as DPS, like enhancemenet or elemental shaman, or shadow/disco priest or so. NEVER.

Why is it so big deal here in RoR?

I don´t get it...

[M0rw47h]

What about matching rDPS vs rDPS?
Playing as melee w/o tanks or healers is even more unfair.

[Shogun4138]

Some trick the system by coming as a healer, then switch to dps.

[gisborne]

I think, they should.
Are they DPS? Yes, so what is the problem?

I dont remember to see any of this kind of hate in any other MMO game.

If I could give an example, I will put a WoW.
You could play shaman, priest, druid (I put them here because they have a healer builds) but I never saw a hate towards them if played as DPS, like enhancemenet or elemental shaman, or shadow/disco priest or so. NEVER.

Why is it so big deal here in RoR?

I don´t get it...

In those other games "Healer" is a specialization, not just a random assortment of talents/tactics/gear.

[Hecksa]

I think at some point we're really going to have to accept that scenario matchups aren't going to be perfectly balanced, and sometimes you'll have a worse composition than your opponents.

We don't have the population in scenario queues to make perfectly balanced matches every time.

That said, if DPS healers swapping tactics + gear and playing as healers continues to be a problem after the recent changes, I could maybe get behind preventing changing gear in scenarios or something. Maybe tactic changes too - though I feel like that'd have a bit more of a negative impact on people legitimately trying to tweak strategies without swapping their archetype.

But perhaps having to commit to what gear you're running would be a reasonable way of nerfing the potential strength of DPS healer's potential to swap over to pure healing a bit further.

Not sure of the viability of that concept backend-wise, idk how much control the server has over gear changes. But, if it's possible - just block changes for anyone in a scenario zone?

[kleinbuchstabe]

destro dmg: 44.370
order dmg: 14.953

I dont think that dps-heals were the problem here... Even the destro def tank did more dmg than the order dps. Without any point of heal and full focus ST damage, order would have made maximum 1 kill with this damage numbers, since most players have more than 7,5k life.

Swaping gear and tactics might be an exploit issue if it happens, ok. But this didnt happen here, they obviously did dps and fullfilled their role. Therefore i dont see any reason for complains.

[kirraha]

Im not to overconcerned about dps healers as long as its mirrored to the enemy side. I am getting frustrated with how extremely switched off ppl are in scs. Ppl dont buff/rebuff, dont guard, dont swap guard, no awareness and get butchered cus they are standing to close and no reaction to pulls, or enemies pushing them. Ppl refuse to fix grp setups, depise others asking for it, and moving to make space in a grp. Its literally massive amount of throwin. Its not even any point to complain ingame, cause ppl with either ignore you or get upset that you give them feedback