DPS balance phase (community) survey

[leftayparxoun]

With the DPS rework phase coming up next and especially with so many "buff/nerf" posts coming up lately, I was curious to see what the community as a whole thinks about what each class is lacking/has too much of.

In the following poll please only select options for classes you have experience/opinions for.
You do not have to select an option everywhere!

The poll pertains all dps classes, including the recently revamped healer dps specs

For all the options of what each class needs, the answers correspond to:

1 = Heavy Nerfs
2 = Slight Nerfs
3 = Should stay about the same
4 = Slight Buffs
5 = Heavy Buffs

AOE = Area of Effect
ST = Single Target

Link to the poll

I should state that this poll is just to see what the community/forum users think, and is in no way, shape or form supposed to influence what actually ends up happening in the DPS balance phase. Decided to do out mainly out of personal curiosity.

Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the poll!

EDIT:

Here's the results!

Out of the 180 submissions, 15 were invalid (complete blanks, all 1s, all 5s, all 5s for one faction and all 1s for another, etc.)
Most questions gathered around 130 answers.

The final results will be presented with 2 metrics:

• Mean = the average of all valid votes in the category

• Standard Deviation = essentially how much those valid votes deviate from the mean value. Will be abbreviated as SD. An SD of 0 means that all voters agreed completely and for larger SDs it means that the voters were torn on the issue and had varying votes. The larger the SD, the more the voters disagreed on the issue.

With that out of the way, let's examine some interesting top 10s !

TOP 10 Buffs requested

• Witch Hunter's AOE damage with a mean of 3.97

• Assault Shadow Warrior's AOE damage with a mean of 3.84

• Witch Elf's AOE damage with a mean of 3.79

• Slayer's ST damage with a mean of 3.66

• Slayer's Survivability with a mean of 3.65

• Sorcerer's Survivability with a mean of 3.64

• Slayer's AOE damage with a mean of 3.58

• Ranged Squig Herder's AOE damage with a mean of 3.58

• Choppa's ST damage with a mean of 3.52

• Bright Wizard's Survivability with a mean of 3.48

TOP 10 Nerfs requested

• White Lion's AOE damage with a mean of 1.96

• White Lion's ST damage with a mean of 2.25

• Dps Archmage's ST damage with a mean of 2.43

• White Lion's Survivability with a mean of 2.51

• Dps Archmage's Survivability with a mean of 2.61

• Ranged Squig Herder's ST damage with a mean of 2.63

• Dps Shaman's ST damage with a mean of 2.63

• Dps Shaman's Survivability with a mean of 2.69

• 2h Warrior Priest's Survivability with a mean of 2.71

• Ranged Shadow Warrior's ST damage with a mean of 2.73

TOP 10 "We want this to stay the same" requests

• Melee Squig Herder's Survivability with a mean of 2.99

• Dps Zealot's ST damage with a mean of 3.01

• Choppa's AOE damage with a mean of 2.98

• Ranged Shadow Warrior's AOE damage with a mean of 3.02

• Dual Wield DOK's ST damage with a mean of 2.98

• Dps Archmage's AOE damage with a mean of 3.03

• Magus' ST damage with a mean of 2.97

• Marauder's AOE damage with a mean of 2.97

• Ranged Squig Herder's Survivability with a mean of 3.03

• Dps Shaman's AOE damage with a mean of 3.05

TOP 10 most agreed upon things

• Engineer's Survivability (Mean = 3.07, SD = 0.73)

• Marauder's Survivability (Mean = 2.85, SD = 0.78)

• Dps Zealot's Survivability (Mean = 2.84, SD = 0.80)

• Magus' Survivability (Mean = 2.75, SD = 0.83)

• Marauder's ST damage (Mean = 3.26, SD = 0.84)

• Marauder's AOE damage (Mean = 2.97, SD = 0.86)

• Bright Wizard's ST damage (Mean = 3.47, SD = 0.86)

• Ranged Shadow Warrior's Survivability (Mean = 3.12, SD = 0.86)

• Slayer's ST damage (Mean = 3.66, SD = 0.86)

• Magus' ST damage (Mean = 2.97, SD = 0.88)

TOP 10 least agreed upon things

• Dps Shaman's ST damage (Mean = 2.63, SD = 1.08)

• Assault Shadow Warrior's AOE damage (Mean = 3.84, SD = 1.07)

• Dps Runepriest's ST damage (Mean = 3.26, SD = 1.07)

• Witch Elf's AOE damage (Mean = 3.79, SD = 1.05)

• Assault Shadow Warrior's Survivability (Mean = 3.21, SD = 1.05)

• Assault Shadow Warrior's ST damage (Mean = 3.40, SD = 1.03)

• Dps Shaman's AOE damage (Mean = 3.05, SD = 1.02)

• Ranged Shadow Warrior's AOE damage (Mean = 3.02, SD = 1.02)

• Dps Shaman's Survivability (Mean = 2.69, SD = 1.01)

• Dual Wield DOK's AOE damage (Mean = 3.43, SD = 1.00)

And here are the complete results in a visual form (format is Mean +- SD):

[Scragmuncher]

Nice idea.

[gersy]

great idea, thanks for making this.

[Scragmuncher]

Dropping a bump on this as I think it would be great to get some traction in the RoR community.

[eigner93]

Good idea. However, many people cant look at things objectively.

[salazarn]

The game needs a reversion to classic AoR model of lower aoe cap and higher damage imo. Its too defensive and too passive. Especially in scenarios

It should also have more investment from players going full glass cannon if they wanna do such so that they are then very vulnerable.

A renown talent that provides like 10% crit and in return you are 10% more likely to be crit for example would be nice

[Hazmy]

Filled it too, this is a great post.

[saupreusse]

I think it's interesting that a lot of people believe squigs single target dps is too high. I feel the same but mainly the pets damage and their damage compared to sorc, which is underperforming in my opinion.

[ceeo]

I must thank the devs for listening even more to the playing community! I main a dps WP and feel that even though the healer patch gave good changes to the class spec, it still feels underwhelming to the DoK mirror. Removing all AA speed was not a good change and could've been mitigated with maybe a 25% AA proc with crit to Fanaticism, or something along those lines. Removing the snare from Judgement was a big nerf since the spec has no snare secondary snare, while dps DoK has both skill snare AND proc snare from an aura. Also a 50%/5s speed buff after a kill is pretty OP. A 50% AA with a much larger dps swing was high-ish, so why not nerf that to 25% and placed on a needed tactic for the spec instead of adding a base damage tactic that quite frankly is useless. I would also like to add reverting Divine Strike back to its original intention of healing AOE/using RF instead of its current iteration. Divine Strike's almost useless now in a rotation and gimps the dps WP to doing half of any healing whatsoever within scs and rvr. If the spec isn't to do 100% of the dps of a actual dps class, then it should at least make for the loss of dps with some healing to group/faction members.

Also the shield WP spec isn't as viable as it was before the healer patch. IMO, it should give more group buffs (as the 13 point ranged shield channel did), but Benediction isn't close to as useful. Either it should shield the entire party for the 10s and lose the +35% to casted heal or give a AOE drain for 150% of damage to the party as with the DoK mirror. This seems only balanced.

Good poll by the way, I personally respect the effort and only gave an opinion for classes that I actually play. I hope others do the same objectively.

[shoelessHN]

I think it's interesting that a lot of people believe squigs single target dps is too high. I feel the same but mainly the pets damage and their damage compared to sorc, which is underperforming in my opinion.

Their damage would be fine if my detaunt applied to both the player and pet at the same time. It's broken as it is.