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Zxul
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Re: Knight dps

Post#11 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:15 am

TrainInVain wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:31 pm what is the kobs shield spec and or gear to do more dps?
As someone who isn't a kotb expert, just looking at abilities, and speaking solo spec:

-Thorns dmg, Shield of the Sun with Sun's Blessing and Sunfury tactics, +melee reflect aura.
-Keep Blazing Blade *3 on target, +Vicious Slash, and spam Precision Stroke as filler.
-Might be worth testing Biting Blade tactic, with some crit.
-Run dmg aura, it adds lot of dmg.

In general, one option is using shield for block + HtL which you can channel while chasing casters, and ignoring snb tree- spec about right + left trees, while ignoring party buffing/ 2h requiring abilities. +points which you put into trees buff dmg on abilities from those trees, more than what you would get from some more str. And they buff your thorns dmg/ dmg aura as well, while str doesn't.
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Tisaya
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Re: Knight dps

Post#12 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:15 am

The simple answer: they hate KOTBS with passion. The "balance team" has a rage boner for the class. I could write a book on KOTBS nerfs.

Meanwhile, chosen is barely touched by nefs and still gets craptons of free stats, which make him super tanky AND allow to deal huge DPS at the same time.
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Re: Knight dps

Post#13 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 5:09 am

Shima wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:06 am
Sinisterror wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:14 am Yes. Because RoR removed and nerfed everything that made Kotbs very nice and fun class to play.
And I used to play as ktobs and wl on Order. Both classes killed by dev team.
Man im sorry because i didnt play knight live very much but my friend did and i used his account to do knight things sometimes but i did really play WL alot and man i miss the original WL <3 And i did realize the power of 2h Kotbs and it was so fun and powerful. But i didnt level that kotbs so i never kind of realized how much i played kotbs now that i think about it : D But yeah i mean Kotbs was obviously overtuned but it was over fun as well. Knight,Shield Bruiser Blorc, Dps Wp And WL are most enjoyed classes for me in Live probably. Actually i loved so many classes in Aor that i dont even enjoy in RoR:E

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Re: Knight dps

Post#14 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 6:47 am

Vaikaris wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:50 pm Because Knights were too strong. You can't be one of the best tanks, one of the most useful debuffers, one of the classes with the best utility AND do great damage.
Why do shamans still exist then?

Khailee
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Re: Knight dps

Post#15 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 6:55 am

billyk wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 6:47 am
Vaikaris wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:50 pm Because Knights were too strong. You can't be one of the best tanks, one of the most useful debuffers, one of the classes with the best utility AND do great damage.
Why do shamans still exist then?
True...also BG and Chosen are 2 of the best tanks..and do a lot of damage...

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Re: Knight dps

Post#16 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:15 am

Khailee wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 6:55 am
billyk wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 6:47 am
Vaikaris wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:50 pm Because Knights were too strong. You can't be one of the best tanks, one of the most useful debuffers, one of the classes with the best utility AND do great damage.
Why do shamans still exist then?
True...also BG and Chosen are 2 of the best tanks..and do a lot of damage...
Man BG is SO OVERTUNED that its obvious that someone in the team plays it, or his friend etc plays it. When they gave Cooldown reducer to BG???? WTF not even one good BG thought they should get that... They have automatic cooldown halved with punt if using 2h. Why all others must spend tactic slot to get this effect? hahaha. Are there really no better ideas than to copy paste skills...

Bg is the only one who gets 5s kd with shield, and they removed blade of ruin etc from BG and replaced it with 2h KD : D at one point BG had SM Wods even i mean COME ON. They can debuff 20% of crit chance. They have aoe 10% debuff to all avoidances with 100% uptime. They have +10% More critical hits Aoe and 100% Uptime as well.

Soft capped toughness in every build. This class is insanity lvl power but because this project is just DMG DMG DMG DMG fudge all else i want to 24 ae cap remove 50% aoe heal debuffs and everything in the game that makes the game and then we wonder why this is failing. Im starting to get mad so i stop so i wont comment something that might hurt someones feelings oh no that is horrifying if someones feelings get hurt
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Zxul
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Re: Knight dps

Post#17 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:10 am

Tisaya wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:15 am Meanwhile, chosen is barely touched by nefs and still gets craptons of free stats, which make him super tanky AND allow to deal huge DPS at the same time.
It is pretty interesting, considering kotb gets exactly the same free stats as chosen- same str/toughness auras, same Runefang buffs (chosen gets toughness, but kotb gets ws). For that matter, kotb even gets a large stat buff on m2, which chosen doesn't gets.
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Tisaya
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Re: Knight dps

Post#18 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:48 pm

Zxul wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:10 am
Tisaya wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:15 am Meanwhile, chosen is barely touched by nefs and still gets craptons of free stats, which make him super tanky AND allow to deal huge DPS at the same time.
It is pretty interesting, considering kotb gets exactly the same free stats as chosen- same str/toughness auras, same Runefang buffs (chosen gets toughness, but kotb gets ws). For that matter, kotb even gets a large stat buff on m2, which chosen doesn't gets.
Exactly. Chosen gets tons of free offensive AND defensive stats, while knight gets WS instead of Toughness, which doesn't do much to make his damage less sucky.
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Re: Knight dps

Post#19 » Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:31 am

Tisaya wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:48 pm
Zxul wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:10 am
Tisaya wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:15 am Meanwhile, chosen is barely touched by nefs and still gets craptons of free stats, which make him super tanky AND allow to deal huge DPS at the same time.
It is pretty interesting, considering kotb gets exactly the same free stats as chosen- same str/toughness auras, same Runefang buffs (chosen gets toughness, but kotb gets ws). For that matter, kotb even gets a large stat buff on m2, which chosen doesn't gets.
Exactly. Chosen gets tons of free offensive AND defensive stats, while knight gets WS instead of Toughness, which doesn't do much to make his damage less sucky.
160 ws/14= 11.4% extra armor pen. Mind explaining how exactly this "doesn't do much to make his damage less sucky"?
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Tisaya
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Re: Knight dps

Post#20 » Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:18 pm

Zxul wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:31 am
Tisaya wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:48 pm
Zxul wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:10 am

It is pretty interesting, considering kotb gets exactly the same free stats as chosen- same str/toughness auras, same Runefang buffs (chosen gets toughness, but kotb gets ws). For that matter, kotb even gets a large stat buff on m2, which chosen doesn't gets.
Exactly. Chosen gets tons of free offensive AND defensive stats, while knight gets WS instead of Toughness, which doesn't do much to make his damage less sucky.
160 ws/14= 11.4% extra armor pen. Mind explaining how exactly this "doesn't do much to make his damage less sucky"?

How much WS chosen needs? None, because he's dealing magic damage. Not carrying about WS at all and instead investing into toughness is superior to a meager armour pen bonus KOTBS gets.
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