But chosens and knights arent equal when we are looking at grp-play, so you cant remove them from the equation. Most knights buff are on defensive procs were as chosens are mostly offensive, that makes a huge difference. Not saying that your point is invalid, just that your regard certain information as non-important when they infact are.hammerhead wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:34 am Balance starts with a balanced group. Take the standard group Bork + Mara/mSH vs SM + WL/aSW (we will take out the kobs/chosen one outside the brackets, other things being equal). Omitting the fact that for Bork it is much easier to apply the CD decreaser (literally even before the clinch), note that armor debuff is better for both Mara and SH, as well as WS buff, aoe Strengh debuff, double absorption. Who needs a spirit debuff in the order group? One skill for a lion? Both SH and Mara in the group have more utilities more protection they receive more from Bork than their opponents. WL does not have that protection, does not have such a utility as Monstro stanse, whereas for protection aSW can only claim the ST group, and is it that the counterweight -20% / 20ft of damage in area for 4 seconds from the SM that can only be taken for 70rr? Or + mythical 25% heal from a Kobs + WP? This is how the whole order is permanently walk under DT and Blast Wave. And in general, desi apologists do not see all those procs and doughs point-blank because they are guided by bare numbers, they say, the order has more firepower. Well, if only it were or or at least stack IB as well as bork for heavy melee meta.
This is the problem when trying to balancing realms that arent complete mirrors.