[SH] feedback

[Stinkyweed]

Both Concussions are random chance as well as the bow auto attack on that same timestamp.

BW is rdps, SH BS specced is rdps...I wouldn't say they are "vastly different archetypes".
SW's do it better.

[anarchypark]

mechanic build up + pre debuff + 5sec window cleansing counter
vs
2sec casting

my sov fort weapons scout SW do almost same as vanq SH subj bow.
don't have full data but performance lvl feels like same.

burst part is little bit much. put it on assist situation.

[wachlarz]

Extra Toxic Coating triggers proc.

Spoiler:

full vanq + subj bow. 909 BS. against 32 deva gear RP.
in fort, pet was dead.
to target hit by 1.6k Poison Arrer crit, usually Finish 'em Off crit 1k.
that's 1sec later if target still alive.

so total 2889 dmg, add pet dmg in same time stamp, add 1k dmg after 1sec.
that's too much burst despite against lowbie.

it's extream case example but does happen quite often.
nobody want 1 shot kill

Two skill of BW do more dmg.

and? you certainly understand that BW and SH are vastly different archetypes, yes?

I think BW and Rshy are dps ?

[Neverever]

mechanic build up + pre debuff + 5sec window cleansing counter
vs
2sec casting

my sov fort weapons scout SW do almost same as vanq SH subj bow.
don't have full data but performance lvl feels like same.

burst part is little bit much. put it on assist situation.

I recommend you to watch some good scout SW videos. So you might (not that hopeful about it tho) feel a little embarrassed about your own posts. Thank you.

[anarchypark]

ok here's data.
tested SH first. then SW. kinda shocked. difference was not much.
so tested 30m on SW to cherrypick best result.


then tested SH again to cherrypick best result too.

after only 3 attempt. pretty sure i would get better result if tested more.

SH
full vanq + full gene + 2 suibj. 909 BS, 285 WS, 28% crit. 15pt BS
SW
full sov + 3 gene + 2 fort. 948 BS, 299 WS 30% crit, 15pt scout

no potion, 160BS tactic + resist ignore + 1s cast reduce + 4th empty
i'll skip the rotations. VoN, glass arrow and gas pet Squig Frenzy were used.

dps stats are almost same. SW sov is not yet finished in tali.
SH can go higher with sov and fort weapons.

SW were out of AP b4 kill. little bit harder to manage rotation.
and 3stacks dot can be cleansed.

SH have pet problem but it doesn't excuse every burst SH gets.
it's also a bonus dmg and utility.

it maybe just dummy test. but halve it for guard, add it with other dps for assist.
you can predict grp play. sorta.

ps. tested in 280 ping

[kmark101]

ok here's data.
tested SH first. then SW. kinda shocked. difference was not much.
so tested 30m on SW to cherrypick best result.


then tested SH again to cherrypick best result too.

after only 3 attempt. pretty sure i would get better result if tested more.

SH
full vanq + full gene + 2 suibj. 909 BS, 285 WS, 28% crit. 15pt BS
SW
full sov + 3 gene + 2 fort. 948 BS, 299 WS 30% crit, 15pt scout

no potion, 160BS tactic + resist ignore + 1s cast reduce + 4th empty
i'll skip the rotations. VoN, glass arrow and gas pet Squig Frenzy were used.

dps stats are almost same. SW sov is not yet finished in tali.
SH can go higher with sov and fort weapons.

SW were out of AP b4 kill. little bit harder to manage rotation.
and 3stacks dot can be cleansed.

SH have pet problem but it doesn't excuse every burst SH gets.
it's also a bonus dmg and utility.

it maybe just dummy test. but halve it for guard, add it with other dps for assist.
you can predict grp play. sorta.

ps. tested in 280 ping

Now try to kill those 2 classes and let's see which one dies in 2 seconds and which one just laughs away at your miserable swings

[Sundowner]

Spoiler:

ok here's data.
tested SH first. then SW. kinda shocked. difference was not much.
so tested 30m on SW to cherrypick best result.


then tested SH again to cherrypick best result too.

after only 3 attempt. pretty sure i would get better result if tested more.

SH
full vanq + full gene + 2 suibj. 909 BS, 285 WS, 28% crit. 15pt BS
SW
full sov + 3 gene + 2 fort. 948 BS, 299 WS 30% crit, 15pt scout

no potion, 160BS tactic + resist ignore + 1s cast reduce + 4th empty
i'll skip the rotations. VoN, glass arrow and gas pet Squig Frenzy were used.

dps stats are almost same. SW sov is not yet finished in tali.
SH can go higher with sov and fort weapons.

SW were out of AP b4 kill. little bit harder to manage rotation.
and 3stacks dot can be cleansed.

SH have pet problem but it doesn't excuse every burst SH gets.
it's also a bonus dmg and utility.

it maybe just dummy test. but halve it for guard, add it with other dps for assist.
you can predict grp play. sorta.

ps. tested in 280 ping

Now try to kill those 2 classes and let's see which one dies in 2 seconds and which one just laughs away at your miserable swings

Destro will say it's l2p issue

[Ramlaen]

Extra Toxic Coating triggers proc.

Spoiler:

full vanq + subj bow. 909 BS. against 32 deva gear RP.
in fort, pet was dead.
to target hit by 1.6k Poison Arrer crit, usually Finish 'em Off crit 1k.
that's 1sec later if target still alive.

so total 2889 dmg, add pet dmg in same time stamp, add 1k dmg after 1sec.
that's too much burst despite against lowbie.

it's extream case example but does happen quite often.
nobody want 1 shot kill

Two skill of BW do more dmg.

BW and Sorc timestamp builds take a longer windup, are cleansable, are glass cannons and have little utility. There is an actual risk/reward trade with them.

[teiloh]

lmao, what you are crying about is something rSH always had since forever, that range debuff skill always been there

now that rSH can kill your rSW you come crying, dude, you talk about the damage added to toxic arrer, when in fact, that was the only damage buff rSH got (which is a tactic btw), remember the buffs on rSW? almost all of the rSW got an increase in base damage, not even by using a tactic. And now that things are more balanced between rSW and rSH, when it gets competitive, when you can't kill rSH easily, when you get killed by a rSH, you come to whine, lmao.

If you ever struggled to beat a SW on a Squig Herder, the problem is with you, not them.