mytreds wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:41 am
Order is less and less organized because we don’t see the point in doing these cities at oddball hours.
It’s also harder to organize when no one logs in guilds and alliances anymore, even for cities.
It gets worse when many order guild members start playing Destro and realize how much better their mirrors are; that they have access to morale pumping abilities which give them overtuned morales much quicker; that they can get top numbers in cities as fresh 40s equipped in greens and blues.
My guild/alliance a month ago had enough for 2 full wbs each city. Now, we barely have enough for a full wb, during prime-time!
Order people are losing interest in this game fast or they are switching to the easier side, because for them winning 80% of the time is more fun.
Although I hate to see it, I have respect for them, because they are willing to admit that one side in this game is clearly broken and objectively better than the other. Which says a lot about the people who are in here continually denying this very fact.
This game is dying on one side due to a lack of understanding this and continual denial of the facts.
But hey, I hope you all got your free loot this weekend.
This. Players are blind if they don't see the data for 4+ months even when Order had much more organized warbands. Even if organized, order has to try harder for the win while fresh 40 destro in vanq can perform better. The mirror has so much better tools and better function and our Guild has 1/2 Destro players that confirm it between the two realms they play..
Zealot can self pump morale with their heal and get M4 AOE heal debuff that stacks but Rune Priests can't self pump? Balance.
Zealot Winds of Insanity as something fun and effective if you don't interrupt it, constant knockback. RP nothing similar. Balance.
Magus can instant Rift and can achieve top damage in city but eng has a delay and can't even reach that damage. Balance.
Mara can top DPS charts, AOE KD, more effective pull without a pet, vs White Lions needing a pet and can't top damage charts and bugged pets patching. Balance.
Squig Herders can take up 3 slots in city and be effective w/ high armor, Bouncin' Ball vs. SW it's a crutch to carry more than one. Balance.
Choppas has the unique ability of GTDC as a 3rd pull for the realm which does damage, speed boost and easy to kill a target while they're in the air. No order equil. Balance
Shaman are hard to kill versus AMs. You can run 2-3 Shaman and be effective WB where you're gimped running multiple AMs. Shaman always heal much more than AMs. Balance.
Magus can AOE debuff for Sorc AOE while that's not easily available for Order. Balance.
Casters and melee just have better synergy that Order doesn't, which leads to people giving up and not playing proper classes or organization.
Won't even start on the tank classes.
Synergy is just much easier to get together for Destro and there is obvious mirroring problems even though it's nice having uniqueness and I prefer it, but Order doesn't have good utility or the proper classes. Devs have alot of work to do on making some Order classes fun in
24v24, especially Healer/Tanks. Organization is an issue when classes aren't fun and people are swapping to Destro as a routine or no longer playing, especially during cities now. Order aren't magically choosing to not organize or play certain classes. Seeing some Destro players switching to Order to make Warbands and get destroyed, ya they're gonna see the difference pretty quick.
Expect 1-2 Wins for Order and 14+ for Destro more often now. Players are hopping over to Destro for the easy, expected Royal Crests. Order doesn't have an advantage list like that which Destro does. Whoever did the balancing, was probably centered on pre-city because oRvR was fine. Pretty much Order can only win if you want to run heavy RP/WP/Slayer/WL/BW/Knight/SM then give more effort. Leaving other classes out.
If balancing doesn't want to be done around cities, remove cities or allow other sources of Royal Crests for order players. That way they can just completely stop queueing up cities and stick w/ their oRvR.