From the first fight we know it's over.

[desizt]

pretty much this, as long as pugs / solo join the city they will not make any changes. Was the same with PUG Scenario, it wasn't till all the solo/duo players stopped queueing for any scenario did they make any changes.

So you want to change the whole >MMORPG< structure to cater for few lazy people who don't bother to even find / make a 6man group? Good logic. Entitled much?

so its ok to pound the sh-- out of any people that just want to join city and have trouble having a good party when all switch to destro side because its easy win always with the amount of people there , and hardcore players (just because its the only way to get top gear and most of them have 2 sets leats)..
as much as you don't like this is where the game is going 1 sided server with long long wait for that side. and it's very fair to be that way.
every new player that join the will think this automatic join the destro because they look cooler and more 'important', or join the order play like 3-5 days, see that every fk scenario its pure lost , and then join destro.
the only player that will join order will be people that play order on the original game or alt's from the destro side when they are sick of the wait time

Wtf does the "amount of people" have to do anything with you expecting to win a pinnacle endgame event by solo? You think there's no destro 23 dps 1 healer pugs? Destro organizes warbands because they have harder time to get it in otherwise.

Yes, I pound the sh-- out of people who expect to join a city solo and win without an effort it takes for everyone else.
Order kicks ass plenty, as long as they have a semi optimized 2/2/2 warband they are a force to reckon with. Just stop talking stupid **** and get your act together, its not hard to find or make 6 man 2/2/2 party.. If more people would do that before they queue, the win chances would skyrocket... BUT YOU DONT - SO THEN DONT **** WHINE!

If you CANT find a group, then **** happens! Don't expect everyone to be equal and everyone handed the same rewards. This is not how life works - this is socialism - which does NOT function as it removes any incentive for someone to improve or make an effort - it's backwards progression if literally everyone would be able to just solo queue into city and get same rewards

[hammerhead]

You can make a more flexible ranking system based not on the rating, but simply by evaluating the equipment. The system could make a selection based on the sum of all the characteristics on the equipment of all participants and tried to find a close number.
Although I do not think that this is very necessary since it is its own mini-game in the game and a drama generator. Well, protection against unsportsmanlike behavior is unfortunately impossible to somehow hardcode into the client.

[soulbog]

So you want to change the whole >MMORPG< structure to cater for few lazy people who don't bother to even find / make a 6man group? Good logic. Entitled much?

so its ok to pound the sh-- out of any people that just want to join city and have trouble having a good party when all switch to destro side because its easy win always with the amount of people there , and hardcore players (just because its the only way to get top gear and most of them have 2 sets leats)..
as much as you don't like this is where the game is going 1 sided server with long long wait for that side. and it's very fair to be that way.
every new player that join the will think this automatic join the destro because they look cooler and more 'important', or join the order play like 3-5 days, see that every fk scenario its pure lost , and then join destro.
the only player that will join order will be people that play order on the original game or alt's from the destro side when they are sick of the wait time

Wtf does the "amount of people" have to do anything with you expecting to win a pinnacle endgame event by solo? You think there's no destro 23 dps 1 healer pugs? Destro organizes warbands because they have harder time to get it in otherwise.

Yes, I pound the sh-- out of people who expect to join a city solo and win without an effort it takes for everyone else.
Order kicks ass plenty, as long as they have a semi optimized 2/2/2 warband they are a force to reckon with. Just stop talking stupid **** and get your act together, its not hard to find or make 6 man 2/2/2 party.. If more people would do that before they queue, the win chances would skyrocket... BUT YOU DONT - SO THEN DONT **** WHINE!

If you CANT find a group, then **** happens! Don't expect everyone to be equal and everyone handed the same rewards. This is not how life works - this is socialism - which does NOT function as it removes any incentive for someone to improve or make an effort - it's backwards progression if literally everyone would be able to just solo queue into city and get same rewards

the way to 1 side server in months.. with dull-witted thinking

[desizt]

How is it 1-sided if Order wins plenty of cities? As soon as some warbands bother to actually organize, order has no problem winning. You can't blame destro for trying harder?

Do you even realize the real issue at hand or are you just talking nonsense?

[Noslock]

You can make a more flexible ranking system based not on the rating, but simply by evaluating the equipment. The system could make a selection based on the sum of all the characteristics on the equipment of all participants and tried to find a close number.
Although I do not think that this is very necessary since it is its own mini-game in the game and a drama generator. Well, protection against unsportsmanlike behavior is unfortunately impossible to somehow hardcode into the client.

people will full sov will start queing with full obliterator gear on and swap in istance.good idea

[soulbog]

How is it 1-sided if Order wins plenty of cities? As soon as some warbands bother to actually organize, order has no problem winning. You can't blame destro for trying harder?

Do you even realize the real issue at hand or are you just talking nonsense?

the only way the order wins , is when they play city at godly hours when most of us are at work.
i don't get wTF do you people try to sell, we all play on the same server, and the amount of people complaining on order side is not small just read the chat /ad or in /sc. i am amazed you people see just your side ...

[Alfa1986]

You can make a more flexible ranking system based not on the rating, but simply by evaluating the equipment. The system could make a selection based on the sum of all the characteristics on the equipment of all participants and tried to find a close number.
Although I do not think that this is very necessary since it is its own mini-game in the game and a drama generator. Well, protection against unsportsmanlike behavior is unfortunately impossible to somehow hardcode into the client.

people will full sov will start queing with full obliterator gear on and swap in istance.good idea

it is just necessary to take into account not those things that are dressed on the character at the moment, but those for that there is an unlock in the tom of knowledge

[sogeou]

You can make a more flexible ranking system based not on the rating, but simply by evaluating the equipment. The system could make a selection based on the sum of all the characteristics on the equipment of all participants and tried to find a close number.
Although I do not think that this is very necessary since it is its own mini-game in the game and a drama generator. Well, protection against unsportsmanlike behavior is unfortunately impossible to somehow hardcode into the client.

people will full sov will start queing with full obliterator gear on and swap in istance.good idea

Pretty sure they lock your gear in 6v6 so people can't do that. Like wearing heal gear and change to dps.

[M0rw47h]

You can make a more flexible ranking system based not on the rating, but simply by evaluating the equipment. The system could make a selection based on the sum of all the characteristics on the equipment of all participants and tried to find a close number.
Although I do not think that this is very necessary since it is its own mini-game in the game and a drama generator. Well, protection against unsportsmanlike behavior is unfortunately impossible to somehow hardcode into the client.

people will full sov will start queing with full obliterator gear on and swap in istance.good idea

You can always lock gear, like in case of ranked. However, I agree that gear doesn't carry players as much as some believe, proper organization and setup are far more important.

[desizt]

Why is this completely useless and non-sense thread still going on?

End-game gear is meant for people who put in an effort. Guilds and warbands who organize.

PERIOD.

Go try to raid end-game raid solo in wow or any other mmorpg. Go try get end-game raid gear alone with no tanks or healers just by hopping into the instance.

Why the **** are you still arguing and whining over something so trivial.

Everyone who wants to progress and get sov can do so, it just requires effort. Not everything is meant to be super-easily accessible to casuals.

This stupid entitled mindset of people lately is killing every mmorpg out there. "Raid Finders" and whatever nonsense is a death of the game.

Play an MMORPG as an MMORPG is meant to be played, if you are unhappy with that and want to play solo, take the MMO out of RPG or play casually and get casual rewards.

I stay awake 18+ hours being online, making espressos at 2am to be able to stay up for 5-6am cities and you literally cry and bitch about not being able to compete against premades when you SOLO QUEUE INTO ENDGAME CONTENT, ONCE AGAIN!

STOP! It's too much!