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Why isnt damage from Guard mitigated?

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romgaard
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Why isnt damage from Guard mitigated?

Post#1 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:37 am

what is the reason behind this?

Most of the damage i take is from guarding someone...so why isnt guarddamage mitigated like most kind of damage

yes, i know it can be blocked and parried, like many attacks..but many attacks ( if hit directly) can be mitigated

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Hypernia
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Re: Why isnt damage from Guard mitigated?

Post#2 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:52 am

Because dying to guard damage would never happen if this change was made? Wounds is more important than mitigation.

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Yaliskah
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Re: Why isnt damage from Guard mitigated?

Post#3 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:44 am

There are multiple questions anyone could ask with guard in general sadly.

-Why magical damages are converted in physical damages ?
-Why the guard takes damages "after" the guarded ? (the tooltip let think that the tank tries to interpose, so he should take damages fisrt)

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Vayra
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Re: Why isnt damage from Guard mitigated?

Post#4 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:45 am

The biggest and most obvious reason is that the guard damage has already been mitigated by the original target. So you shouldn't get to mitigate it twice.
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Arbich
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Re: Why isnt damage from Guard mitigated?

Post#5 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:42 am

Yaliskah wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:44 am There are multiple questions anyone could ask with guard in general sadly.

-Why magical damages are converted in physical damages ?
-Why the guard takes damages "after" the guarded ? (the tooltip let think that the tank tries to interpose, so he should take damages fisrt)
I think you mean why is damage that can get dodged/disrupted converted to that can be parried. For balance reasons I guess.
Same for the second one (who gets dmg first).

I think guard dmg works fine as it is.
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Re: Why isnt damage from Guard mitigated?

Post#6 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:45 pm

As for why the original target and not the tank mitigates, tank mitigating it would mean practically that the original target gains not only the guard, but tank's mitigation as well, even if its a cloth armor with no toughness or anticrit. In other words, way overpowered.

As for why the dmg isn't mitigated on tank, its to give choppas some reason to use brains instead of charging head first into order zerg while fully red (as in, after first time he insta explodes from guard dmg, the tank won't guard them anymore).
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Re: Why isnt damage from Guard mitigated?

Post#7 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:15 pm

huh i didn't expect this quality answers.
is it 6 years effects?
finally forum posts get improved?

sry i brought it down a little i guess.
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Re: Why isnt damage from Guard mitigated?

Post#8 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:20 pm

Guard and dmg from guard work perfect.
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Re: Why isnt damage from Guard mitigated?

Post#9 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:25 pm

Like the fact guard damage is noticeable plus SNB guards are more durable then 2H guards
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Re: Why isnt damage from Guard mitigated?

Post#10 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:34 pm

Vayra wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:45 am The biggest and most obvious reason is that the guard damage has already been mitigated by the original target. So you shouldn't get to mitigate it twice.

Just curious, as I have been gone for a long while. When exactly was this change implemented?
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