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Re: Debate about why Desto is how it is

Post#51 » Sun May 31, 2020 2:39 am

gurtuk wrote:
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every fort that gets denied, and every city that gets denied for city loggers brings me great joy

were you there when order defended stonewatch fort? timer ran out with 2% lord hp.
great moment. hope u were there.
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Re: Debate about why Desto is how it is

Post#52 » Sun May 31, 2020 2:47 am

Fazuk wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 12:51 pm
It is not like Destro is not trying to siege Altdorf but they almost lose every Fort this week how can that be with all this advantage on Destro? In my opinon there is a huge imbalance in RVR maybe only in Forts but still an imbalance. Am i wrong?

Order has ugly naked fatasss midgets, long blond hair males in dresses, feather wearing humans, range lovers DPS...
(this gives Order an advantage in choke fights, that's why they win forts, way too many Engineers and Bright Wizzards with stoopid overpowered AoE abilities)

Destruction has badass appearances for Orcs and Goblins, edgy dark looking elves, awesome chaos humans armour and Squigs!
(this gives Destruction the appearance advantage and intimidating factor, we don't have stoopid overpowered AoE abilities but rather have a strong melee DPS base)

So yeah, Order looses more Cities because they stack too many Engineers and Bright Wizzards.

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Re: Debate about why Desto is how it is

Post#53 » Sun May 31, 2020 6:43 am

Fazuk wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 12:51 pm
how can that be with all this advantage on Destro?

To be more precise: Destro has better classes and advantages in matchmaking, which is why you almost never develop actual skill - the zerg suffices to win. However, this hurts you in the few situations where zerging doesn't work, like Forts or the Thunder Valley scenario.

Order doesn't have an advantage when it comes to defending chokepoints, otherwise you wouldn't even be able to enter fort because Oder would win every keep defense. BWs are overrated by Destro like WLs are because they're among the very few Order classes that aren't totally underpowered, so stick out like sore thumbs. That's another hint that Destro simply has no skill: Destro wins when Order classes are worse than Destro classes, but when they're comparable (BW is comparable to Sorc, not better or equal, since in practice, Sorc corp dmg gets debuffed less than BW elemental dmg), Destro immediately gets problems because they can't faceroll their way to victory anymore.

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Re: Debate about why Desto is how it is

Post#54 » Sun May 31, 2020 7:02 am

Destro have better tanks whilst order has better rpds. Destro classes are more equally spread out whereas order prefers ranged classes like bw, engi and dps archmage leaving them with a shortage of guard and fewer melee train wb's. Order complains about their classes being inferior when in truth they have the best rdps (bright wizard), the best melee dps (white lion) whilst both factions healers are pretty equal. Its only really tanks where destro have an advantage. Both factions can take forts its just destro need a larger numerical advantage over order to do so reliably. I assume poster above is a north american player where destruction have the majority of players and has to face the destro zerg hence there opinion of less skill in destro, not sure if he realises in EU time the opposite is in effect, order heavily outnumbers destruction and it would just as easy to claim order has no skill and just facerolls to victory.

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