There are a few things I can add to this topic as a relatively new player. I played Live for a few years, but just now started RoR a month ago. So I feel like a newbie.
#1 - Order mentality. I play Order only for now so can comment here. Every time a new player asks what class they should play the majority of people will say "play whatever is fun to you, that is the most important thing." There is some truth to that. Why spend hours and days of your life playing a class you don't totally enjoy. However, if one side is picking classes to win raids and the other is just picking to have fun, there is going to be a desparity. Fun does not equal the right combo to win.
#2 - To the people saying there is a BW overload on Order....I don't see it. I have 4 classes leveled up in the 25-32 range. Each time I play my BW I barely see others on. If I do scenarios most of the time I'm the only BW in the scenario group(maybe 1 other.) There are plenty of SWs, AMs that don't heal, and WP that can't figure out if they want to dps or heal (doing not so great in either category.)
#3 Warband play and rewards - I'll post more after this quote here...
Vayra wrote: ↑
Tue May 05, 2020 8:20 pm
emiliorv wrote: ↑
Tue May 05, 2020 6:53 pm
You cant do any of these things as a tank or a healer (specced as proper healer), these roles are binded to grp/wb gameplay...you cant go solo and profit.
You could on live, but according to Wargrimnir, they have very deliberately made that impossible for healers here to force them to group. Funny how they didn't do the same for dps. Imagine the outcry if you couldn't farm renown from running solo in the lakes. Might get some better balance between dps, tanks, and healers, though.
I just found out last night that this was true. I was playing my RP. I joined an Open Warband to play, have fun, and hopefully up my RR. My warband was sitting in the keep AFK. About 2 people were out roaming with other groups. I decided to follow some of the roaming groups. I thought I could toss heals and keep them alive instead of just sitting in a keep doing nothing but waiting for Destro to arrive. I was having fun tossing out heals left and right. Keeping some 40s alive and in the fight even though I'm only 25 on my RP. Well, after several skirmishes I checked my renown and I hadn't gotten any. Since my WB is afk this roaming group was not doing anything for my reward. I was benefiting them but not the other way around. Even at keep defense most people were afk inside. I was still getting minimal renown. I got tons of my BW, but the poor RP was getting none. The only way to get renown was to stop healing and start dotting as many enemies as I could. Just hoping that one of the ones I dotted died. I have a 26 KoTBS and he's in a similar boat. His RR is a couple levels behind his CR. I don't have this problem with my BW or WL. They both get killing blows and more renown than some measly assist 20 or 30.
So #3 is really a 2 parter - one part Order warbands sitting AFK in keep just waiting for a defense bonus and the other part reward systems favor DPS over tanks and heals. I've played in PUG warbands for the past week trying to up my RR, because we all know scenarios don't really help with that. I've not won a single fort attack due to Destro outnumbering us 2 to 1 at the keeps. We may get the outer door down but that is it.