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Onemantankwall
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Re: absorb all damage guard is it possible ?

Post#11 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:33 pm

adamthelc wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:27 pm
Onemantankwall wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:44 pm 75% parry is far from 100% so dmg is still taken. Unlike the knight who has far better cc chosen is the definition of tank... stand in guard range while buffing/debuffing with aruas otherwise other than a well timed kd/quake that doesnt give free immunities ur pretty much doing ur job just standing there looking badass cycling ur buffs to kerp u tanky which to most is boring af

Also 75% goes to -10% vs cheesefest rampagers while order doesnt have any defense issue.
Are you trying to say you cant parry guard damage caused by a rampaging slayer?
Hmmm id imagine the guard dmg itself is defendable because you take dmg from yourself hince the "died by self' but if your defensive target gets jumped by invader aoe slayers ur both gonna get slaughtered by the undefenable max armor penn
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Re: absorb all damage guard is it possible ?

Post#12 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:15 pm

Manatikik wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:57 pm
Aurandilaz wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:45 pm
Onemantankwall wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:43 pm Parry caps at 75% and id think chosen gets the easiest parry with snb granting 50% with buff/tactic
source? don't remember this change
physical mitigation maxes at 75% (rarely reached due to attackers armor pen values etc) - but parry?


All hard avoidances have a hard cap (in the equation) of 75%.
Is this true because as discord deft chosen I can get 100% disrupt and it feels like 100%.

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Re: absorb all damage guard is it possible ?

Post#13 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:22 pm

anrix wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:15 pm
Manatikik wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:57 pm
Aurandilaz wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:45 pm

source? don't remember this change
physical mitigation maxes at 75% (rarely reached due to attackers armor pen values etc) - but parry?


All hard avoidances have a hard cap (in the equation) of 75%.
Is this true because as discord deft chosen I can get 100% disrupt and it feels like 100%.
Kinda crazy how 75% feels like 100%. But yea, for the equations 75% is the highest.
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hogun
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Re: absorb all damage guard is it possible ?

Post#14 » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:19 am

hello ,

because my first test gave me this answer while I have only 38.7 +50% = 88.7 parry or with the . getstat I have 74% ( 18+56 )

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I have a basic equipment which is not especially parry oriented, I looked a little bit at the possible equipment and it is quite imaginable with a chosen to have 100 % parry... its my question. if I have 100% parry I absorb 100% of the guard damage?

you'll note that 10.8 % blocking + 73.1 % parry make me really at 76 % absorption of guard damage

ps : spécial ty for Groumf i use his soft to analyse log
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Re: absorb all damage guard is it possible ?

Post#15 » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:23 am

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Re: absorb all damage guard is it possible ?

Post#16 » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:35 am

100 % with a BO ... amazing , I didn't think that was possible. and with the chosen 100 % with 2H without using the 25 % buff on blocking ...
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Re: absorb all damage guard is it possible ?

Post#17 » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:59 am

both stat doll and character windows are inaccurate. i cant speak for stat doll, but the character window use WS to calculate parry. atm the formula doesn't use WS to calculate parry so even if there is written "100% parry" it may actually be lower. use getstat to know if it's true 100%, other source aren't valid.
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Re: absorb all damage guard is it possible ?

Post#18 » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:16 am

i got it to 120 so ... how inaccurate can it be?
TBH even that high it still didnt parry
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Re: absorb all damage guard is it possible ?

Post#19 » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:44 am

Bram wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:16 am i got it to 120 so ... how inaccurate can it be?
TBH even that high it still didnt parry
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Re: absorb all damage guard is it possible ?

Post#20 » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:51 am

Ysaran wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:59 am both stat doll and character windows are inaccurate. i cant speak for stat doll, but the character window use WS to calculate parry. atm the formula doesn't use WS to calculate parry so even if there is written "100% parry" it may actually be lower. use getstat to know if it's true 100%, other source aren't valid.
getstats wouldn't help, because it ignores parry gained from ws.
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