Thoughness Nerf

[Ysaran]

It's like 6 month that often i hear about some "Thoughness Nerf" but since now no one is been able to tell me exactly how it is been nerfed. Someone out there can tell me how thoughness was nerfed and explain me the math behind this nerf?

P.s: please refrain youself from posting unless you can put some number on the table

[Gangan]

If I remember correctly it was "nerfed" in some extreme situations where the incoming DMG was reduced to 1 by stacking very high amounts of thougness. Mainly by skills or morals.
Now if the DMG would be reduced to 1 the reduction through thougness is capped at 75% (might be a different value, not sure about that) . But only in those cases, in all other situations the full thougness reduction is applied.
Also don't forget that the thougness mitigation is calculated before armour/resistance.

At least thats how I understood it.

[Sulorie]

Nothing wrong with getting toughness up to 1050. Imagine how often you get single digit damage hits. Those were edge cases.

[Haskr]

It's like 6 month that often i hear about some "Thoughness Nerf" but since now no one is been able to tell me exactly how it is been nerfed. Someone out there can tell me how thoughness was nerfed and explain me the math behind this nerf?

P.s: please refrain youself from posting unless you can put some number on the table

The toughness before the change did not have a cap on it, that meant that you could actually reduce some damage to 1 (damage can't be reduced to zero (except if you count 'absorb' as zero) so it was reduced to one).

This was foremost the case with small damage numbers, so if you were a deftank with 900+ toughness it meant that from that toughness alone you would mitigate almost 200 damage, so if somebody attacked you that didn't have a lot of points in his mainstat, you would barely feel getting hit at all, getting hit only by really small numbers, as he needed to provide a lot of damage to even reach your cap (of course against real dps you would still get hit by a lot as they had other means to mitigate your defenses and could push high damage numbers).

The change was that you could now only mitigate 75% of your damage with toughness (instead of no cap).

I only leveled a blackguard since the toughness change, and what I noticed was that I got a lot of 'small' damage numbers (ranging from 10 to 100 dmg for example) that you wouldn't have gotten before the change.
Sometimes it even felt that I was getting 'eaten up' by those small numbers, which is of course more in a smallscale or even solo environment, as any healer can heal it up quickly.

I don't know if there was a toughness cap on live as I didn't play it that long, the only thing I noticed being a downside was on shaman who gets a pretty big toughness buff in his heal tree, due to the change that buff got a bit more turned down.

[iagdtod]

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For the patch notes, it s as the previous post said but you can check here if you like for Natherul explaining it.

[Ysaran]

for what i can get it doesn't seems a big nerf if you play in proper set up (i.e. with a healer) or am i missing something?

[WExWH]

There was a issue with dot, thougness didn't work ended with high damage from class which deal a toon of damage from dot like am/sham. Probably not fixed yet

[Ysaran]

What's the problem with the dots?

[WExWH]

If a ability had a str/int/bs multiplier it supposed to be countered by the toughness. before/atm? dot isn't affected by thougness

[Uchoo]

Does anyone have more definitive insight into Toughness vs dots? Dots are one of highest sources of damage I take across all characters currently.