Liniments

[Alubert]

Is there any hope that all liniments will be available through craft? Buchering or cultivating?
The current situation is a bit stupid.
When you set your build you take into account what liniment or potion you will use. You really can not even if you want to take care of liniments from gunbad because there are too few of them. If you play a lot and buy all of AH, you will miss them without passing a very high price. What is the meaning of using a liniment once or twice a day?
Does anyone take into account the repair of this unwise situation?

[Aurandilaz]

3hour of Gunbad can be between 50-100 liniments.
Assuming you do 3h of Gunbad per week, you should have about 400 liniments for monthly use.

Obviously if someone else is looting all the seeds, less expected linis gain per session.

[Nekkma]

It is very rare to see characters with liniments. 8-16 random liniments per person for 3 hours in pve which requires a group... As far as I am concerned, liniments are not in the game (from a practical point of view).

[vanbuinen77]

Because exessive pve in a pvp makes sense right?

A lot of ease of use and common sense implemation of basic mechanics were changed from live.

Like the ward system....

[Hargrim]

Because exessive pve in a pvp makes sense right?

A lot of ease of use and common sense implemation of basic mechanics were changed from live.

Like the ward system....

Sure, lets get back to pure rng drops for bosses and no quests to getthe gear after X kills. Because live was so great with that bugged best crit weapons from LotD!

[Zanilos]

Spoiler:

Because exessive pve in a pvp makes sense right?

A lot of ease of use and common sense implemation of basic mechanics were changed from live.

Like the ward system....

Sure, lets get back to pure rng drops for bosses and no quests to getthe gear after X kills. Because live was so great with that bugged best crit weapons from LotD!

Honestly, the PvE is pretty good. The trash has a bit too much HP, but the reward system that guarantees the loot when you get X amount of kills is very good.

[Stortz]

Because exessive pve in a pvp makes sense right?

A lot of ease of use and common sense implemation of basic mechanics were changed from live.

Like the ward system....

Sure, lets get back to pure rng drops for bosses and no quests to getthe gear after X kills. Because live was so great with that bugged best crit weapons from LotD!

while you are correct in saying that ROR has improved in terms of fairness for drops and balance, it would make sense for the wards to be acquired with RVR gear as well. Right now, getting a city dungeon group is easy, but getting a gunbad group is not. The reason in my understanding is that getting full conqueror is faster than finding a gunbad group and running all wings 3 times or less. And since it's easier to combine conqueror/ vanquisher with beastlord/genesis bonuses, there are characters ignoring red eye gear altogether. Now this might change once we get Bastion Stair and people start looking for wards.
Another reason I think gunbad isn't as popular is it's difficulty. For a lesser ward dungeon, it sure has it's complications, more than the city dungeons at least.

[Zanilos]

Thats only because of the time it takes, taking a shot at 3 pieces of red eye takes longer than a WoW raid on HC.

[Glorian]

Liniments drop also on Butchering lvl 40-41 npcs outside of Gunbad. Chance in Gunbad is just higher.

[Hargrim]

while you are correct in saying that ROR has improved in terms of fairness for drops and balance, it would make sense for the wards to be acquired with RVR gear as well. Right now, getting a city dungeon group is easy, but getting a gunbad group is not. The reason in my understanding is that getting full conqueror is faster than finding a gunbad group and running all wings 3 times or less. And since it's easier to combine conqueror/ vanquisher with beastlord/genesis bonuses, there are characters ignoring red eye gear altogether. Now this might change once we get Bastion Stair and people start looking for wards.
Another reason I think gunbad isn't as popular is it's difficulty. For a lesser ward dungeon, it sure has it's complications, more than the city dungeons at least.

I don’t really think that you can get full conqueror in about 12 hours of playing RvR. If you can’t find a group maybe change guild or join one of pve discords?