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Re: Fix The Order Zerg

Post#81 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:06 pm

Vaul wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:58 pm This is not about Order, or about Destruction, imho. I don't think it's even about balancing population numbers, or rewards via AAO, or xrealming.

I think the core problem seems to be the optimal and/or easiest strategy for capturing a zone and progressing the campaign is to Zerg - is there a better strategy???? Forts have perhaps accentuated this lately as the carrot for capturing a zone got fatter.

Hypothetical question, but even with equal populations, would 4 separate WBs (96ppl) working together but in different areas of a map be able to lock a zone versus a single 96-man megazerg? I don't know, perhaps they could, but this would seem to require more effort in terms of coordination etc.
No they wont because :

1-flag system is flawed, no syncro timer on all flags mean you dont need to spread ( i dont mean like, live where each flag had his own timer but only one for all flags)
2-some maps encourage snowbowling ( TM , BC , reik )

L'ets say fixng number 1 would benefith the game a lot when server pop is high.
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Re: Fix The Order Zerg

Post#82 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:17 pm

Where were you all a few months back when Destro rolled Order evening after evening and you had up to three premades and Ocara running around? Short term memory, ey?
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Re: Fix The Order Zerg

Post#83 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:31 pm

Double the AAO for the underdog side. New range is 40% to 800%

...and give Squig Herders Unshakeable Focus back (even at +50 or +75% dmg)...but not Enginerds and Shadow Warriors because they have enough burst.
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Re: Fix The Order Zerg

Post#84 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:52 pm

Stinkyweed wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:31 pm Double the AAO for the underdog side. New range is 40% to 800%

...and give Squig Herders Unshakeable Focus back (even at +50 or +75% dmg)...but not Enginerds and Shadow Warriors because they have enough burst.
Why no one has thought about it before?!

DO IT, PRONTO!

(but give UF to SH at a 125% value, 75% is too gimpy)!!111!!1
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Re: Fix The Order Zerg

Post#85 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:15 pm

Its unbelievable and predictable how much more destro complain on the forums relatively to order.

8 months ago when Destro was absolutely owning RvR, no complaints were had on order numbers.

The server balance switches every few months.

Please close this thread already. If you looking for handouts easymode game, go play fort-nite.

PS: Bring back Torq to fix OP Witchelfs already, we've had enough, plz and ty.

Thanks.
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Re: Fix The Order Zerg

Post#86 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:23 pm

Mythrendir wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:15 pm Its unbelievable and predictable how much more destro complain on the forums relatively to order.

8 months ago when Destro was absolutely owning RvR, no complaints were had on order numbers.

The server balance switches every few months.

Please close this thread already. If you looking for handouts easymode game, go play fort-nite.

PS: Bring back Torq to fix OP Witchelfs already, we've had enough, plz and ty.

Thanks.

or use this thread to pin point why both sides can zerg and fix the problem once and for all?
or wipe invader gear till now and make fortress harder to conquer since more and more ppl is recognising that for off side is a joke??

i know truth hurt yet....
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Re: Fix The Order Zerg

Post#87 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:57 pm

Mythrendir wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:15 pm Its unbelievable and predictable how much more destro complain on the forums relatively to order.

8 months ago when Destro was absolutely owning RvR, no complaints were had on order numbers.

The server balance switches every few months.

Please close this thread already. If you looking for handouts easymode game, go play fort-nite.

PS: Bring back Torq to fix OP Witchelfs already, we've had enough, plz and ty.

Thanks.
Meh whine is prevalent on both sides to the same amount, destro whine is more coordinated though imo (aka WL whine where as order complains about a wider amount of stuff but in less frequency).

Hell last night I was cranky and tired and whines on discord a ton, everyone gets frustrated and wants to vent sometimes. Don’t need to lock unless it gets aggressive or toxic.
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Re: Fix The Order Zerg

Post#88 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:01 pm

To sum up:
It seems that zerg problem is a players’s issue so probably should be fixed by community itself. Devs may or may not assist here.

If there is something related to balance, Balance team will keep an eye on current state of the game and react to it accordingly.

Dev team will monitor all the possible issues related to new content and provide necessary tweaks/new updates. Stay tuned.

That’s all for now. Thank you for playing on this server.
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