Be prepared to having a lot of binds. As i play my IB longer i find need for more macros, situational skills , potions to keybind. ATM i have 3 bars fully keybinded for use in battle and 4th for some misc stuff like mounts or crafting, while on any other classs i usually manage with 2 bars only.
If thats not a problem for you than IB can be massively rewarding for effort put into mastering class.
How "Hard" is Iron Breaker [and other dwarfs]
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- Nefarian78
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Re: How "Hard" is Iron Breaker [and other dwarfs]
The difficulty in playing IB is the micromanaging involved with the class abilities and the awareness to know what buff to use and when. Depending on your build and situation you're going to have to manage around 4-6 buffs on yourself and your oathfriend + a few debuffs on the enemy + the tanking stuff and ofc the rest of your rotation. If you like and are good at micromanaging buffs and you are able to adapt quickly based on the situation, IB is the class for you.Breidr wrote:I've gotten a Chosen to T4 and the character plays fine. I'm still in the process of learning, but I'll get there.
I'm not really feeling the Chaos vibe and was interested in another race, dwarfs. I keep reading about how complicated an IB can be, so I'm a little worried. I don't have my heart set on IB, but of all the dwarfs he's my favorite.
I just want to be dwarf and send greenskins to meet Mork.
I discourage playing it as an alt character tho, taking long breaks from the class and then learning how to micromanage everything again takes a bit of time.
They done stole my character's names. Can't have **** in RoR.
Re: How "Hard" is Iron Breaker [and other dwarfs]
I shall be on s+b IB very soon.
Witness me!
Witness me!
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Re: How "Hard" is Iron Breaker [and other dwarfs]
hard to deny those sweet Tactics Dwarf gets, so sweeeeeet.
Re: How "Hard" is Iron Breaker [and other dwarfs]
it's even easy enough to play IB, it just takes a little common sense. those who play with NB or full of macro should learn to do without it would be much better. personaly i am a mouse clic with no key-bind.
finally the IB 2M is for duel (it is probably not the best spec for duel in my opinion) but it is not the most useful for a group against it is good for the ego and some think that having a big hammer does it all !. IB 2M does not exist in warhammer history elsewhere . the philosophy of the IB is the solidity and the buff of these companions and especially the other Dwarves! and be the the most painful possible for the opponents !
and as everyone knows ... the Dwarves are the most beautiful!
ps : if you whant to be a horrible IB with 2H all volgograd video are very good and particularly the beginning with is good analyses about resist.
finally the IB 2M is for duel (it is probably not the best spec for duel in my opinion) but it is not the most useful for a group against it is good for the ego and some think that having a big hammer does it all !. IB 2M does not exist in warhammer history elsewhere . the philosophy of the IB is the solidity and the buff of these companions and especially the other Dwarves! and be the the most painful possible for the opponents !
and as everyone knows ... the Dwarves are the most beautiful!
ps : if you whant to be a horrible IB with 2H all volgograd video are very good and particularly the beginning with is good analyses about resist.
My video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65aHhb4kCJU
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Hogun - IB 80+ Hoguun RP 80+ Hogunn ING 80+ HOG Slayer 80+ Gor IB 2M 50
(KOBS,WH,WP,BW,SW,WL,SM,BO,CHOSEN,SH,MAGUS, MARAU ,CHOP,SHAM )40+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyJx3So8q6o
DAMMAZ KRON !
Hogun - IB 80+ Hoguun RP 80+ Hogunn ING 80+ HOG Slayer 80+ Gor IB 2M 50
(KOBS,WH,WP,BW,SW,WL,SM,BO,CHOSEN,SH,MAGUS, MARAU ,CHOP,SHAM )40+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyJx3So8q6o
Re: How "Hard" is Iron Breaker [and other dwarfs]
Don´t want to start the clicker vs keybind argument but how are you able to keep track of whats going on around you when you click skills ? I never managed to be able to do it when i tried it so i kinda have to make keybinds, but i am old,so maybe that´s whyhogun wrote:personaly i am a mouse clic with no key-bind.
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Re: How "Hard" is Iron Breaker [and other dwarfs]
You can start this arguement because no way in earth you will do better than average without keybinds with all those skill numbers there. Sciencetific fact you wont be that fast to click,move,look around,turn the cam around ... IB Needs razer naga or pianist keyboardDraugris wrote:Don´t want to start the clicker vs keybind argument but how are you able to keep track of whats going on around you when you click skills ? I never managed to be able to do it when i tried it so i kinda have to make keybinds, but i am old,so maybe that´s whyhogun wrote:personaly i am a mouse clic with no key-bind.
Personal choice ofc but i want to try BG for sure.
- peterthepan3
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Re: How "Hard" is Iron Breaker [and other dwarfs]
tionblack wrote:You can start this arguement because no way in earth you will do better than average without keybinds with all those skill numbers there. Sciencetific fact you wont be that fast to click,move,look around,turn the cam around ... IB Needs razer naga or pianist keyboardDraugris wrote:Don´t want to start the clicker vs keybind argument but how are you able to keep track of whats going on around you when you click skills ? I never managed to be able to do it when i tried it so i kinda have to make keybinds, but i am old,so maybe that´s whyhogun wrote:personaly i am a mouse clic with no key-bind.
Personal choice ofc but i want to try BG for sure.
Pretty much this. I didn't use NB on Giggs, but just invest in an MMO mouse.
For some classes, I can see clicking working (look at Barracudax video in which he uses maybe 3/4 skills at most), but on an IB? Masochism in its purest form!
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Re: How "Hard" is Iron Breaker [and other dwarfs]
About grudge management BG wins because they dont have to slot a tactic in order to get offensive hate gain.
I also believe IB has the highest chance to be crit in the game like Blorc. So having fun with renown points is a no go.
I also believe IB has the highest chance to be crit in the game like Blorc. So having fun with renown points is a no go.
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Re: How "Hard" is Iron Breaker [and other dwarfs]
From a S&B guardbot perspective:
TLDR: Its manageable and given stacking hierachy (or what there is left of, legend has it and so on) you can cut your rotation down to a reasonable kit. You certainly do not need nerfedbuttons to perform well, but I'd suggest you put alot of effort into figuring out good keybinds and learn some trigger discipline - there is nothing worse than grudge-starving yourself or wasting GCDs by hammering on the buffs mindlessly.
Abbd.: To take into account what has been written directly above my post: You gotta learn to manage your grudge battery, pop it on whatever gets the most hits in as the engagement starts, from there on you'll float your Oathfriend like your guard to allies that are being focused on anyways (preferably seperately and temporarily, its guard-lite after all) - so, you shouldn't really run into grudge issues. If you however (solo)roam, well, its a bit more stressful to manage but IB has tools for that, too. I personally prefer guardbotting away ~ poke Volgograd to share his teachings.
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Abbd.: To take into account what has been written directly above my post: You gotta learn to manage your grudge battery, pop it on whatever gets the most hits in as the engagement starts, from there on you'll float your Oathfriend like your guard to allies that are being focused on anyways (preferably seperately and temporarily, its guard-lite after all) - so, you shouldn't really run into grudge issues. If you however (solo)roam, well, its a bit more stressful to manage but IB has tools for that, too. I personally prefer guardbotting away ~ poke Volgograd to share his teachings.
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