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Gunlinger
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Re: WE and WHs changes made the game booring any fixes?

Post#271 » Fri Feb 27, 2026 1:56 am

noronn wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 10:49 pm Kinda crazy how confidently incorrect Gunlinger is.
Maybe do a little reality check before you post again.

Literally the first video I find from live Witch Elf shows that FP worked on Agonizing wound with combat log visible in the clip.
The archmage is clearly facing him. He popped FP before the AW hit on him.

Go to 0:53 and slow down the video speed.

Video time 1:00 Target Soulgiver AM. FP activated

21:00:48 Your Agonizing Wound critically hits Soulgiver for 1819 damage.(100 mitigated)
(next one is important for you!)
21:0048 Your attack hits Soulgiver for 591 damage. (103 mitigated)

21:00:50 Your Frozen Touch hits Soulgiver for 173 damage.(91 mitigated)

So going by your logic FP now also giving Armor ignore to auto attacks since both AW and AA hit are mitigated in the same margin.

Again. Feinted positioning NEVER did and was never supposed to grant the Armor ignore bonus from AW and Torment.
Yes people constantly believed it would. And that is why so many pop FP when it is not even needed.
FP is purely meant to make you able to use your Abilities that would otherwise not be useable when not standing in the back of the enemy.
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Re: WE and WHs changes made the game booring any fixes?

Post#272 » Fri Feb 27, 2026 3:06 am

Gunlinger wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 2:01 am But letting those 2 Classes keep an not intended 10 seconds 100% armor ignore trough FP on their highest hitting, low ap spammable builder. (on top of one of them not just every 60 sec for 10 sec, but even every 20 sec for 10 sec) is an absolute NO GO.
We had years of back and forth debates about the fairness and or balance of Rampage.
But here we are with people defending 1 class on both sides, that can 100% bypass
every single point of Armor by GEAR PIECE, TALISMANS, TACTICS, GROUP BUFFS, AURAS, POTS and HIGH COOLDOWN SELF BUFFS by activating a 10 second lasting self buff.
Interesting. That explains why people are sometimes melting so fast. Every type of armor is useless when they can hit you like you are naked. That's ridiculous.

100% bypass should not be a thing. Period.

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Re: WE and WHs changes made the game booring any fixes?

Post#273 » Fri Feb 27, 2026 3:47 am

And any class with a good armor debuff pretty much removes what little armor a WE has. Making them fragile to say the least.

Lets be honest. You just want to be able to kill all WEs. You have no desire to spec to be a WE killer. So you need to nerf it. Its also ok for all classes to spec tanky or regen but the WE.

Seems to me you have trouble getting to your blob so you can spam aoe.
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Re: WE and WHs changes made the game booring any fixes?

Post#274 » Fri Feb 27, 2026 4:49 am

Gunlinger wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 1:56 am
noronn wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 10:49 pm Kinda crazy how confidently incorrect Gunlinger is.
Maybe do a little reality check before you post again.

Literally the first video I find from live Witch Elf shows that FP worked on Agonizing wound with combat log visible in the clip.
The archmage is clearly facing him. He popped FP before the AW hit on him.

Go to 0:53 and slow down the video speed.

Video time 1:00 Target Soulgiver AM. FP activated

21:00:48 Your Agonizing Wound critically hits Soulgiver for 1819 damage.(100 mitigated)
(next one is important for you!)
21:0048 Your attack hits Soulgiver for 591 damage. (103 mitigated)

21:00:50 Your Frozen Touch hits Soulgiver for 173 damage.(91 mitigated)

So going by your logic FP now also giving Armor ignore to auto attacks since both AW and AA hit are mitigated in the same margin.

Again. Feinted positioning NEVER did and was never supposed to grant the Armor ignore bonus from AW and Torment.
Yes people constantly believed it would. And that is why so many pop FP when it is not even needed.
FP is purely meant to make you able to use your Abilities that would otherwise not be useable when not standing in the back of the enemy.
I can't believe that I have to point that out, but armor is % based physical mitigation, so please check the aa number again before you embarrass yourself further.

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