A reflection on stealth classes

[Deadpoet]

This subject brings out so many Cry Babies, i can't stop laughing

Agree. So many cry babies crying at the unlikely possibility that one of their OP tools could be removed.

[Stinkyweed]

...but what about WL escape tools and the snare pet?

(It's not a proper discussion without saying WLs are OP)

[Incertname]

Dude, I don't want to be that guy, but def WE/WH recieved EVERY possible nerf imaginable. If you die to them, you're either underlvl/undergeared, you're a scout SW, or you suck at the game.

[nat3s]

I think WE/WH need a buff tbh. I play exclusively solo roaming setups, regen magus, regen chosen, zealot, AM and sham.

I find WE/WH to be free renown in 1v1 scenarios. If you compare a def WE to your regular glass cannon setup most people seem to embrace in rvr, then that's a bit disingenuous. If you compare like-for-like solo built chars, WH/WE are not that oppressive.

Depends if you can swallow your ego or not, some people literally cannot handle death despite there being 0 consequences in RoR. I'm a big Eve Online and Albion Online player, full loot games are my thing. Any game that can bring that feeling of risk to a sandpit area, just feels cool. I've lost 50b supers in Eve (that's roughly 20 months worth of sub time in PLEX) and have risked a titan on 2 occasions in mega DD brawls. That's a true sense of risk, which also brings a massive social hook i.e. you're in the trenches with your friends who are risking things of equal value to fight alongside you, you just cannot beat that feeling in an MMO. We need WH/WE and others to bring that sense of danger as there's no full loot mechanics to do it. Where's the fun if there are no stealth classes and everyone just WB zergs? Such a game would feel profoundly shallow to me.

Personally I'd be happy for WH/WE to get perma stealth, like DAOC days.

[Gladiolix]

I think WE/WH need a buff tbh. I play exclusively solo roaming setups, regen magus, regen chosen, zealot, AM and sham.

I find WE/WH to be free renown in 1v1 scenarios. If you compare a def WE to your regular glass cannon setup most people seem to embrace in rvr, then that's a bit disingenuous. If you compare like-for-like solo built chars, WH/WE are not that oppressive.

Depends if you can swallow your ego or not, some people literally cannot handle death despite there being 0 consequences in RoR. I'm a big Eve Online and Albion Online player, full loot games are my thing. Any game that can bring that feeling of risk to a sandpit area, just feels cool. I've lost 50b supers in Eve (that's roughly 20 months worth of sub time in PLEX) and have risked a titan on 2 occasions in mega DD brawls. That's a true sense of risk, which also brings a massive social hook i.e. you're in the trenches with your friends who are risking things of equal value to fight alongside you, you just cannot beat that feeling in an MMO. We need WH/WE and others to bring that sense of danger as there's no full loot mechanics to do it. Where's the fun if there are no stealth classes and everyone just WB zergs? Such a game would feel profoundly shallow to me.

Personally I'd be happy for WH/WE to get perma stealth, like DAOC days.

You say you like risk but you exclusively play risk free regen deftard setups..?