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vanbuinen77
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Re: WL is probably the most broken class

Post#41 » Sun Nov 02, 2025 7:17 pm

Remove the 25% ar pen and we got balance
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Shammytitanx
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Re: WL is probably the most broken class

Post#42 » Sun Nov 02, 2025 7:59 pm

Order stacking WLs in buckets nowdays.
I can't imagine why.

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Gunlinger
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Re: WL is probably the most broken class

Post#43 » Sun Nov 02, 2025 8:35 pm

vanbuinen77 wrote: Sun Nov 02, 2025 7:17 pm Remove the 25% ar pen and we got balance
yes remove it and make new one with 50% ar pen to counter Sneaky Bouncin' 50% ar buff
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Re: WL is probably the most broken class

Post#44 » Sun Nov 02, 2025 8:44 pm

Aethilmar wrote: Sun Nov 02, 2025 2:46 pm
Akalukz wrote: Sun Nov 02, 2025 1:58 pm make WL dual wield and get rid of the 360 AoE and balance.
Dual wield 2H axes?
Cats?
Shadow Warriors?

:P
Dual wielding cat tails would be awesom.
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TrykoXodus
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Re: WL is probably the most broken class

Post#45 » Sun Nov 02, 2025 11:30 pm

Lol even 50% armor pen from Sneaky bouncing is a ror thing, in live sh had no 50% armor pen and instead sneaky stabbin that gives 15% more dmg if under 45 ft.

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Re: WL is probably the most broken class

Post#46 » Mon Nov 03, 2025 12:50 am

I wanna a SW as pet, instead a lion. :lol:

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Re: WL is probably the most broken class

Post#47 » Mon Nov 03, 2025 2:13 am

Mara spin/Wl Spin Both have like 2.5x higher dmg on them in RoR than vs Live + Wl also gets 25% armour pene on it. But if you just make it 180 frontals with half the dmg but hits every 05s instead of 1s. and remove 25% Armour pene tactic and ae cap to 9 and Nobody will complain about Wl anymore. Wl used to be so much better class btw.

RoR has blocked this build which was one of the ways to make killing the pet probably not worth it. RoR.builders - White Lion

Check first 60s and you can see wl dropping from bridge and pouncing on enemy before landing so avoids all fall dmg+pet teleports to the spot it would drop but doesnt activate until Wl use Pounce. Also you can see Wl pouncing back from bridge after Kb in first 60s as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n9wm3uHmgk
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Wdova
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Re: WL is probably the most broken class

Post#48 » Mon Nov 03, 2025 5:26 am

cairlaith wrote: Sun Nov 02, 2025 6:33 pm Let's say the developers completely removed armor penetration for White Lion, what are you going to cry about next? Pounce? Let's say Pounce is also removed, what's next? Let's say Whirling Axe and Slashing Blade skills are also removed, what then? I think White Lion should be removed from the game, because we're so tired of hearing destro main players' cry for years. Maybe let's say White Lion is completely removed from the game, what next? Shadow Warrior? Arch Mage? Sword Master? And have you noticed that those who are upset about White Lions never speak out about Mara Aoe Knockdown cause its complete game changer. A few days ago in the fort, a Mara pulled me from behind a wall, and I got stuck in the wall, and healers couldn't resurrect me. What about Choppa GTDC? Regen Witch Elf? Sh huge burst damage? Shall we make it easier? Which character would you like us to play as Order when you play as Destro main?

I really don't want to argue with anyone. For example While i was playing with my Sw Mokong killed me a few times today, and it was in 3v1, and Oooruk, Ecz also got solo killed me, but I didn't cry about careers, in fact I had a lot of fun because they're good players or maybe im bad player. (I don't know if giving player names is forbidden within forum rules, I'm too tired to read them again, I gave names to be appreciated, if it is forbidden, please let me know i can delete)

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I really beleave that making WL even better AOEr than slayer was bad idea in general. With all the nerf hammers that slayer got over the years there is literaly no point to play slayer over WL anymore.

"Let's say the developers completely removed armor penetration for White Lion, what are you going to cry about next? Pounce? Let's say Pounce is also removed"
I don´t think it needs anything that drastic. First thing I would do is "spin to win Wirling axe" to be cone infront of player (I beleave its 180°) just like mara´s Wrecking ball. Now its 360°.
Hack and slash tactic. Either leave it as it is so it adds 25% aditive armor penetration, 15less AP for slashing blade, but add some trade off (-20% damage reduction for both slashing blade and WW axe for example)
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Re: WL is probably the most broken class

Post#49 » Mon Nov 03, 2025 5:34 am

https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/career/marauder check piercing bite tactic. Main argument is 25% pene on 2 aoe skills of WL? Mara have 25% on EVERY mutaded skill. But who cares right? Burn da witch (with cat)!!!!!1111
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Re: WL is probably the most broken class

Post#50 » Mon Nov 03, 2025 7:18 am

Sever1n wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 5:34 am https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/career/marauder check piercing bite tactic. Main argument is 25% pene on 2 aoe skills of WL? Mara have 25% on EVERY mutaded skill. But who cares right? Burn da witch (with cat)!!!!!1111
Even with 25%armor pen tactic, mara do not even close to wl damage.

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