For non crit that dmg is bullshit for sure if this is not warcamp buff.
Lion - 967 str 700ws 136 melle power non crit auto on construct with armor debuff - 671/183 just checked. Dummy - 854
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Re: This attack strikes a direct blow to your mind
Sever1n wrote: Wed Oct 15, 2025 9:53 am For non crit that dmg is bullshit for sure if this is not warcamp buff.
Lion - 967 str 700ws 136 melle power non crit auto on construct with armor debuff - 671/183 just checked. Dummy - 854
Your damage on the dummy indicates that you are not using Loner tactic nor Primal Fury and are only relying on the 5% dmg increase of your Bloodlord weapon.
Not using Loner means that you would also have to factor in your Pet's damage, but let's ignore that for now and see what Loner would do (even if it suboptimal for ST damage):
If you had used Loner on your build with the same setup you would have dealt 1053 damage.
If you had also used Primal Fury you would have dealt 1256 damage.
And keep in mind that you are not using the BIS ST gear for WL which is either 6 Tri - 3 Sov/Warlord with softcapped STR (Full Darkpromise might be better but I have not checked). If you were ST BIS I expect that the ST AA would be even closer to what a 2h WP can achieve.
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99 melle power and 4% dmg boost will make 1256 into 1800? Im starting remembering something i heard about bugged 6 pieces of tri...
Im kinda concerned about how much hybrid class in medium armor with infinite drain , proks, 1600 armor debuff+heal debuff, and 2 detaunts, 780 shield, etc can perform numbers similar or higher to lion on burst buff. Lion cant maintain usualy use loner st and have 15 sec on min kd buff. U say WP can just be there with 100% uptime?
Im watching on sorks and wh 1600 armor with pot and realise that im no big dif then a training dummy now. Can understand why he created this topic. Starting to remember guilty soul ticks, executes that hit harder then lions, and new shiny spirit skill that hit like a truck.
Maybe devs really should to watch on them in terms of balance. Cos this is concerning.
Im kinda concerned about how much hybrid class in medium armor with infinite drain , proks, 1600 armor debuff+heal debuff, and 2 detaunts, 780 shield, etc can perform numbers similar or higher to lion on burst buff. Lion cant maintain usualy use loner st and have 15 sec on min kd buff. U say WP can just be there with 100% uptime?
Im watching on sorks and wh 1600 armor with pot and realise that im no big dif then a training dummy now. Can understand why he created this topic. Starting to remember guilty soul ticks, executes that hit harder then lions, and new shiny spirit skill that hit like a truck.
Maybe devs really should to watch on them in terms of balance. Cos this is concerning.
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Re: This attack strikes a direct blow to your mind
Sever1n wrote: Wed Oct 15, 2025 11:39 am 99 melle power and 4% dmg boost will make 1256 into 1800? Im starting remembering something i heard about bugged 6 pieces of tri...
Not aware of any bug nor am I referring to any bug.
A BIS WP should be doing (unassisted) ~1409 AA damage. You can check my analysis at the bottom of the 1st page of this thread.
This is what I was referring to when I said "comparable damage" and not the 1778 that the OP posted about which was at the very least produced with some sort of additional boost(s).
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Were you fighting near your warcamp or near the enemies warcamp?DiMakss wrote: Tue Oct 14, 2025 10:51 pm
It's obvious that the image was fabricated - we were fighting near the wc.
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Just of interest who have bis st dps wp, what lvl of burst u can achieve in 3 sec on doll?
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