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JohnnyWayne
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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#151 » Fri Aug 01, 2025 4:02 pm

Stimpz wrote: Fri Aug 01, 2025 3:15 pm But claiming that 100% block/parry bypass was okay and straight-up lying about multiple destruction tanks having 100% block all the time is not biased at all?
Please quote the exact line where that was claimed. I couldn't find it. Nothing to contribute again, yet claiming wild things. Getting desperate, faction priders.
Bavradai wrote: Fri Aug 01, 2025 3:28 pm
Probably a freebootaz player, as you don't know anything outside of greenskin classes
Nice strawman. Less than ten posts. Another troll.
Yes my former posts got archived or deleted or something (with the recent bot purge, where I commented under one of the first threads), I should have around 300.

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Stimpz
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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#152 » Fri Aug 01, 2025 4:31 pm

JohnnyWayne wrote: Fri Aug 01, 2025 4:02 pm
Stimpz wrote: Fri Aug 01, 2025 3:15 pm But claiming that 100% block/parry bypass was okay and straight-up lying about multiple destruction tanks having 100% block all the time is not biased at all?
Please quote the exact line where that was claimed. I couldn't find it. Nothing to contribute again, yet claiming wild things. Getting desperate, faction priders.
Bavradai wrote: Fri Aug 01, 2025 3:28 pm
Probably a freebootaz player, as you don't know anything outside of greenskin classes
Nice strawman. Less than ten posts. Another troll.
Yes my former posts got archived or deleted or something (with the recent bot purge, where I commented under one of the first threads), I should have around 300.
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Also, I'm no faction prider. My personal view is that believing that one side is superior is one of the stupidest things you can think of. After all, we're all human beings playing the same game and want it to thrive.

JohnnyWayne
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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#153 » Fri Aug 01, 2025 4:39 pm

My man, there is no word in that section that implies, that destro tanks have constant 100+% block up. I'm not sure if its a language barrier issue.

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kleinbuchstabe
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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#154 » Fri Aug 01, 2025 5:45 pm

Honesty, nothing said here disproved any of my points.

First of all, block channel of the BG. Yes he could have it. With a shield. Now tell me how many Blackguards play SnB, maybe 1 of 10? 1 of 20? Majority is runing 2h gleve and goes for parry. Yes or no? So its not relevant practically.

The statistics shown also dont touch the class mechanic balancing. Why? Most of city instances are pug events. So you got the instances filled with a bunch of pugs, and the wining team is the side with the better random setup. its that ez. If you put WL in a group without guard and heal, against a 2-2-2 setup, ofc they will loose. But thats about party composition, wich is totaly random in most of the city instances, and therefore a bad argument for the balancing of class mechanics.

Same goes for oRvR an lotd when you look at the blob show that we got there. If you got 300 vs 300 players, you barely got equal fights. In that case its all about numbers clashing on each other. If you got 2vs2 warbands in a blob fight, and a 3rd one crashes in the backline from behind, then this will determine about win or loose, not the class mechanic of one class. As higher the numbers, as more irrelevant is the performance of one class. So you also presented here a satistic, wich is not very significant for the balancing of class mechanic.

SC win statistic is also difficult... cause you can avoid fights in SC and win with objectives. And, like in city instances, its more about party composition, premade vs pug, and so on... So the pure SC win statistic is also not that representative for the balancing of a class.

Btw im not a freebootaz player, i play both sides order and destro, and i play this game since decades (more or less ;) ). And all i can do is giving the advice back to you. Make a destro char, and play against order during this WL plague going on. Preferably with a small scale setup, cause if you zerg down a 12man with 3 warbands, you can never get a feeling for it... Its neither crying nor bias that majority of destro is complaining about WL. There are reasons. Play it, feel it, you will get it.

SZ244663
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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#155 » Fri Aug 01, 2025 9:45 pm

Let's not forget, there are two tanks on order with massive M4 morale drain, only one on the other side.

havartii
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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#156 » Sat Aug 02, 2025 2:52 am

I think we are getting a very clear picture of what has transpired over the last 5 years or so on how different classes might challenge a WL and who may be the culprit of said changes ..They just need a little tuning not a castration like slayer got. And ok you still get to 2 shot shamans in sov.
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