Order became too used to count on White Lions who instakill every destro player, regardless of guards and heals, in 1 second, therefore becoming lazy and inept regardless of obvious OPness of every Order class compared to its Destruction counterpart.
This theory is quite popular amongst WL destruction fans.
How come order is so bad ?
Re: How come order is so bad ?
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Order is the superior realm mechanicaly... I am amazed too @ RML
I am starting to see other destro guilds come together though... and King Ocara makes destro stronger more than any "morale pump excuse" which is just salt.
Class wise, and composition wise you can do better things on order side... as a leader I know this, as playing both sides on live and here I know this to a fairly okay level.
Order get easier access to m3/m4 with far superior morale pump... but everyone is QQ them damn destro tanks with their nerfed morale pump (few times) and OP slow channeled interuptable weak raze bomb... it's not like its instant spike...
People look for excuses and blame, instead of improvement...
Phalanx been on order for 5 minutes and already take advantage of the plenty of superior tools order got access too because they know and understand mechanics.
TUP get alot of blame because we kill people, and people get salty and try give my guild a reputation based on one or two people speaking... when our roster is alot deeper than that. So whatever floats their boat.
Kotbs stronger tank supportive/defensively... Warrior priest better healer... BW better bomber way stronger morales... AM better morale pump... Order has the edge in mechanics... doesn't mean Destro is useless though... but if people are running away instead of fighting back that is part the problem also which barely gets taken into account.
I am starting to see other destro guilds come together though... and King Ocara makes destro stronger more than any "morale pump excuse" which is just salt.
Class wise, and composition wise you can do better things on order side... as a leader I know this, as playing both sides on live and here I know this to a fairly okay level.
Order get easier access to m3/m4 with far superior morale pump... but everyone is QQ them damn destro tanks with their nerfed morale pump (few times) and OP slow channeled interuptable weak raze bomb... it's not like its instant spike...
People look for excuses and blame, instead of improvement...
Phalanx been on order for 5 minutes and already take advantage of the plenty of superior tools order got access too because they know and understand mechanics.
TUP get alot of blame because we kill people, and people get salty and try give my guild a reputation based on one or two people speaking... when our roster is alot deeper than that. So whatever floats their boat.
Kotbs stronger tank supportive/defensively... Warrior priest better healer... BW better bomber way stronger morales... AM better morale pump... Order has the edge in mechanics... doesn't mean Destro is useless though... but if people are running away instead of fighting back that is part the problem also which barely gets taken into account.
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If only actually explaining it over and over made people use it. But it doesn't. Just gets ignored because people need the **** excuses to not play optimally.Wam wrote:Order is the superior realm mechanicaly... I am amazed too @ RML
I am starting to see other destro guilds come together though... and King Ocara makes destro stronger more than any "morale pump excuse" which is just salt.
Class wise, and composition wise you can do better things on order side... as a leader I know this, as playing both sides on live and here I know this to a fairly okay level.
Order get easier access to m3/m4 with far superior morale pump... but everyone is QQ them damn destro tanks with their nerfed morale pump (few times) and OP slow channeled interuptable weak raze bomb... it's not like its instant spike...
People look for excuses and blame, instead of improvement...
Phalanx been on order for 5 minutes and already take advantage of the plenty of superior tools order got access too because they know and understand mechanics.
TUP get alot of blame because we kill people, and people get salty and try give my guild a reputation based on one or two people speaking... when our roster is alot deeper than that. So whatever floats their boat.
Kotbs stronger tank supportive/defensively... Warrior priest better healer... BW better bomber way stronger morales... AM better morale pump... Order has the edge in mechanics... doesn't mean Destro is useless though... but if people are running away instead of fighting back that is part the problem also which barely gets taken into account.
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Because Order doesn't like to play only: Kotbs, AM, BW. They like to play also the other 9 classes too. Some of us ran the optimized moral bomb warbands on life for years. So why should we do it here too? For what?
Also Order not organizing is in fact also not true. Join a guild on Order and see. Ofc we don't do it on /1 where every tablechair general can give his opinion.
Also Order not organizing is in fact also not true. Join a guild on Order and see. Ofc we don't do it on /1 where every tablechair general can give his opinion.
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Re: How come order is so bad ?
Organized warband =/= competitive warband. And if you don't want to play in a certain way, does it make sense to whine about the opposition playing to their strengths????!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!???!!??!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!!??Glorian wrote:Because Order doesn't like to play only: Kotbs, AM, BW. They like to play also the other 9 classes too. Some of us ran the optimized moral bomb warbands on life for years. So why should we do it here too? For what?
Also Order not organizing is in fact also not true. Join a guild on Order and see. Ofc we don't do it on /1 where every tablechair general can give his opinion.
Rip Phalanx
Re: How come order is so bad ?
Truth be told, I can't wait for Hao to get his order roster sorted out ~ the orderXdestro circlejerk gonna be hilarious, a bunch of questions will be asked and dodged, lol.
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But if you know that you play a set up thats not the best can you then complain about destro being better?Glorian wrote:Because Order doesn't like to play only: Kotbs, AM, BW. They like to play also the other 9 classes too. Some of us ran the optimized moral bomb warbands on life for years. So why should we do it here too? For what?
Also Order not organizing is in fact also not true. Join a guild on Order and see. Ofc we don't do it on /1 where every tablechair general can give his opinion.
I would say with the recent numbers in eu prime time it should force your groups/warband to adapt and make the best out of every situation and you cant run with a gimped set up if you already are outnumbered.
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Re: How come order is so bad ?
Of course no one should blame that TUP and desies do things right to achieve full success. Problem is that evolution mechanisms seems do not work at order side;/ .I cursed about amount of solo rdpes/mdpses 2 years ago, 1 year ago .....and nothing seems changedAkilinus wrote:But if you know that you play a set up thats not the best can you then complain about destro being better?Glorian wrote:Because Order doesn't like to play only: Kotbs, AM, BW. They like to play also the other 9 classes too. Some of us ran the optimized moral bomb warbands on life for years. So why should we do it here too? For what?
Also Order not organizing is in fact also not true. Join a guild on Order and see. Ofc we don't do it on /1 where every tablechair general can give his opinion.
I would say with the recent numbers in eu prime time it should force your groups/warband to adapt and make the best out of every situation and you cant run with a gimped set up if you already are outnumbered.
Karak Azgal - Haron WP
Karak Norn - Haeroon KoTBS
RoR:
- Chaeron - SM
- Nogrun - magnet eng
- Cheron - i want sorc Black Horror skill for my BW
Karak Norn - Haeroon KoTBS
RoR:
- Chaeron - SM
- Nogrun - magnet eng
- Cheron - i want sorc Black Horror skill for my BW
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