@foof
jesus, you're like the first fight in mike Tyson's knockout.
ur quote:
"I guess you forgot the WL has a pet.... work on your reading comprehension skills."
".. work on your reading comprehension skills."
".. work on your reading comprehension skills."
".. work on your reading comprehension skills."
".. work on your reading comprehension skills."
my quote:
"loner tactic comes into account here = 25% bonus dmg. (now we don't have a lion that doesn't use ap, therefore neutering your ap argument.) loner is the widely accepted build tactic in cities."
"...therefore neutering your ap argument"
"...therefore neutering your ap argument"
"...therefore neutering your ap argument"
"...therefore neutering your ap argument"
ur quote:
"WLs also get a 50% crit damage tactic... which you conveniently pretend doesn't exist"
".. work on your reading comprehension skills."
my quote:
"loner tactic comes into account here"
"1.25(.45x1.5x134)+1.25(.55x134) = 205.19 avg dmg
lonertactic(critrate x crit dmg multi x base dmg) + lonertactic(noncrit rate x base dmg)"
research:
Pack Synergy
"increases the additional damage dealt when either you or your pet critically hits by 50%, AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A PET ACTIVE."
Loner
"you deal 25% more damage and the cooldown of pounce is removed, but you are unable to call forth your War Lion, and it will depart if it has already been summoned"
UR QUOTE
"also other assumptions like the Mara crit tactic having a 99% uptime"
math with 50% uptime:
306.6 avg dmg / 221.1 avg dmg = 1.38 ratio
math with 0% uptime:
287.1 avg dmg / 221.1 avg dmg = 1.2985 ratio
Ur quote:
"You want to try and actually do real math and factor in the AA haste tactic, the WLs 50% crit damage tactic, and the effective pet DPS? Or do you want to continue pretending like the class doesn't have any of that?"
"They also get a 50% AA tactic, do Marauders get that? Do Marauders get all the pet damage and pet abilities the WL has? Since when are we talking about cities and loner builds? We weren't, are you going to pretend like Loner doesn't give the WL a 0 cd pounce? Where's the Marauders pounce? "
My response:
when are we talking about anything other than city, foof? what's this thread about anyway? ah yes, 5 ap. a micro bias, yes, but still a bias. I made another thread that I encourage you to post on that explicitly focuses on city faction ability bias. also: take note, aa haste tactic isn't used in city, crit tactic isn't used in city, and effective pet dps doesn't exist in city.
post here please, I like making you look foolish.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39498
Ur quote:
"If you are curious for some actual numbers (someone will have to provide WL):
Mara snare damage with 15/15 mastery path (so max), 238.8 DPS (str/mpower/weapon): Tooltip: 639. Damage on dummy (no tactics): 706. - Reducing the base damage by 50 would reduce that damage to 656 (since I'm not over-weighing a base damage difference and forgetting how scaling works)."
I appreciate this, thanks.