Help Needed: Making Grace WP Work Again

[kpihuss]

Hi fellow Warrior Priests (and evil DoKs),

Well, after the mega-nerf to the WP Grace spec—which was without a doubt one of the hardest healer specs to play even before the patch—it’s made Grace WP (and Grace DoK) completely unplayable in RvR or SCs (and I’d almost say the same in PvE).

The thing is, I still think there might be some way to make it work again, and although I’ve tried a lot of things without getting any damage, survivability, or healing, I thought maybe someone else has been testing stuff too and we could share ideas.

I’ve tried defensive gear setups of 5+4 or 6+3 (even 3+3+3) with Sovereign and Triumphant, using both +24 Strength talismans and +137 Armor or +24 Toughness talismans. My best survivability experience was with armor talismans plus resistances talismans (1x Elemental, 1x Corporeal and 1x Spiritual) a Block talisman, and a fully defensive Renown build. In those cases I could survive a long time in melee, but I was unable to keep my party alive in scenarios. According to the final scenario log, more than 50% of the healing I did was on myself.

Glass cannon builds didn’t work for me at any point.

As for my mastery build, it was this:
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I never ended up using Morale 4, because I had to be using M1 almost on cooldown

Could anyone share your experiences too, to see if we can figure something out?

[Illuminati]

I gave it up on DoK. I pretty much tried similar builds to yours (in mirror) but landed on providing a distraction as a tanky self-healer but it resulted in being the last alive versus sustaining a group.

Never made it to M4 similar to you so can avoid going that high in the tree for a few points.

[morridinalthor]

I play mostly grace, it’s terrible don’t do it.

Grace requires big brain positioning , hard to get gear, a strong team and has a 10 button rotation all for mediocre output.

Wrath requires big brain positioning , hard to get gear, a strong team and has 1 button and puts out huge numbers.

Salvation doesn’t require hard to get gear to be good is very simple to play and puts out very good numbers.

It’s only pros are it’s good solo vs melee and in rare occasions smite + Sigmars will can put out massive healing to the order blob

A good salvation priest will do the same damage and shielding as grace with significantly higher healing while also taking less damage himself

As for the morale, I personally don’t have issue getting to 4 and it’s a very powerful one but 90% of the time it’s offensive m2 with the team. I only m1 in 1v1 and very rarely m3

[Mortgrimm]

I´m also back to book.
2h is weak already but only play shield if u like to suffer. It´s just no fun.
There are changes i don´t get. After the healer patch book and shield was in really good state. Only 2h build needed to be adjusted. And giving the snare back to justice. Then all of the sudden Grace was changed with no reason to the most unplayed healer build. Why?
Instead of giving ppl the option to play 3 different styles they reduced it to just book. It´s strange anyway.

[Deadpoet]

I understand grace subspec (and MELEE healing including shield DoK) can be hard to balance, but such an emblematic, even iconic concept shouldn't be left to die. If big changes aren't incoming, at least some further tweaking could be considered. Sometimes a little tinkering can go a long way towards resurrecting these builds.

[Mvl130]

They don't want you to play dps or shield specs, they just want everyone to stick to book spec for boring backline healing ; but because they can't say this openly, what they do instead is a "rework" that kills the specs, and then you're left as being "responsible" for not being able to make the new specs functional, and that's it

Why do they want everyone to stick to boring backline healing ? Who knows. Some people would "argue" that if frontline specs were viable, then there would be a lack of book players ; but if people want to play a frontliner, they're not going to force themselves into book spec anyway, they're going to roll on another frontliner class instead