nonfactor wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:45 am
zulnam wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:46 pm
The fact that you played BG, IB, Knight and Chosen and only came away with "well IB punt is a bit sh*t innit" is staggering.
That is a textbook strawman.
No, that's an intro. The reply continues. It was a strawman if that was my entire post. Google the definition.
nonfactor wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:45 am
zulnam wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:46 pm50% autoattack speed
which bg gets passively without having to waste a gcd and getting hit by a magic attack
Passively with the use of a tactic slot. In fact, most classes get it that way. Out of the top of my head, no single class gets 50% AA from a
core ability.
nonfactor wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:45 am
zulnam wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:46 pmget access to two root/snare breakers
No one specs Avenging the Debt.
You don't spec into AtD.
nonfactor wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:45 am
zulnam wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:46 pmhave incoming damage reduced by 15% virtually at all times
shield only so it does not apply to smallscale
True. But again, you will not keep everything if you ask for your punt. Something will be taken. Ready to lose this?
nonfactor wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:45 am
zulnam wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:46 pmwhile also having armor tactic and KD timer reduction by 50% tactic
only used by low lvl ibs to make up for bad gear
Bringing even low lvl IBs up to snuff with more well equiped tanks. And KD timer reducer can be used at any level.
nonfactor wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:45 am
zulnam wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:46 pmand a tactic giving an aoe cone punt which is the only one of it's kind on any tank
Not used in smallscale.
True. See above.
nonfactor wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:45 am
zulnam wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:46 pmand a heal which works both for SnB and 2H
Grumble N Mutter? Do you really spec that for smallscale?
You can, yes.
nonfactor wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:45 am
zulnam wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:46 pmand a KD with an dot doing more than 600 damage in FIVE seconds
Every sane IB would trade that puny damage for a mirror of BG's punt.
You would trade your damage for a mirror of BG's punt.
nonfactor wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:45 am
zulnam wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:46 pmsingle target buff strength, toughness, armor,
useless because it doesnt stack with pots and other buffs
You can't have both toughness and armor. Pick one, use the other self buff.
Same goes for STR. Yes you could use a STR pot because derp, or you could use a WS liniment that also gives crit chance and buff yourself with STR.
nonfactor wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:45 am
zulnam wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:46 pmresistance
only corporeal
True. This will probably not be taken since it's not that OP to begin with.
nonfactor wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:45 am
zulnam wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:46 pmcrit chance, parry chance, AP pump
Which is nice of course but what I said that these three things do not make up, in my opinion, for the lack of a proper punt which is a number one tool for making plays in smallscale. Most kills are done by punting enemy tanks thus testing their reaction time to switch guard. This is why BO and SM are deemed lesser tanks because even though they do very good damage and offer some utility it is all pointless if you can't punt enemy tanks. You list a lot of tools and one cannot possibly use them all in a single build so it sounds like you are overselling the class, I could make a list of abilities like you did for every class and make it good on paper but in practise IB is just GCD starved short punted inferior version of BG that is overshadowed by KOTBS.
IB is not GCD starved. IB is a thinking man's class. You have many abilities and they're all good, but all of them require a situation to use, forcing you to make correct split second decissions every fight in order to be good. If you want a "press 1, now press 2, now press 3" type of tank play knight or chosen.
Literally every tank in the game is overshadowed by Knight, in no small thanks to some really biased people having the dev's ears (i'd give names, but that would be a
trap). Knight is the only tank that gets FIVE group utility abilities/effects in SnB (3 auras, Dirty Tricks, Stay Focused!) while also having access to all of them in 2H and even more utility thanks to aoe debuffs. Knight is not comparable to anything because the class is very OP when it comes to utility. The only reason it's not visible is because very few people play it, since it hits like a grandma wielding a wet noodle.