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Re: IB Question
A honest question, not meant to troll or mock at all Earthcake (So plz dont take it that way) but is this what you spend your time on thinking actually matters ?
if your action takes .1sec longer/more costly etc. compared to other tanks and that is what's holding you (And the IB) back in any way shape or form in comparison to other tanks?
This is nice theorycrafting, I give you that regardless it's you or not who did it. (if correct, no way i will check if it is or not cuz it's not important at all in grand scheam of things) But not at all applicable during gameplay most of it.
if your action takes .1sec longer/more costly etc. compared to other tanks and that is what's holding you (And the IB) back in any way shape or form in comparison to other tanks?
This is nice theorycrafting, I give you that regardless it's you or not who did it. (if correct, no way i will check if it is or not cuz it's not important at all in grand scheam of things) But not at all applicable during gameplay most of it.
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Re: IB Question
You're probably right about TYS in 2H, in that while it's still a good group ability to have, it would reduce dps. But again, the situation depends on who you're running with, since this is a team game and even 2H tanks run in small scale sometimes (and you're going that tree after Path of Vengeance anyway if you have BiS, for GnM).
As for the other point, that being that TYS is weaker than Knight aura, no. You literally did the numbers and came out double. Yes, you are blocked in what abilities you can use and yes, rotation rotation rotation, but it's double. Even with a pesky chosen nearby, it's just as much as a knight would make in 10 seconds, while also negating chosen AP aura and, if that wasn't enough to hammer the idea home, in this time you've also:
- ST shield absorb buff / Runic Shield - 30 AP
- ST ini and parry buff (aren't we nice) / Oathbound - 15 AP
- done an aoe (awww) / Shield Sweep - 10 AP
- given our oathfriend crit buff / Ancestor's Fury - 15 AP
- gien them a reistance buff / Stubborn as Stone - 5 AP
- toughness buff (lol buff but putting it here for consistency) / Vengeful Strike - 10 AP
- given them a WS buff / Watch an Learn - 15 AP
(putting all options above, just to make it clear how many options we have)
And once every 20 seconds you can indeed use Grudge Unleashed, one ability, to give 40 AP, and cut your AP rotation in half.
Grudge Unleashed - 40 AP
Runic Shield - 30 AP
Ancestor's Fury - 15 AP
you can now use some of our other plethora of abilities (stone breaker, REA if you feeling AoEy etc etc).
In this time knight can use whatever he wants, 5 abilities, yes; that would be a great advantage, if any of the knight defensive abilities would be worth a damn. Hell, 5 active rotation-viable abilities is everything the knight gets, period: Shield Rush, Shining Blade, Slow, Vicious Slash, Shatter Confidence.
Everything else is situation and/or on long CD's (we're talking 30 seconds here: Perseverance, Shield of the Sun, Vigilance)
Yes, it is ironic that a class with so many abilities is restricted to what it can use in order to be group efficient, while a class that can give group utility by literally doing a /follow has potato abilities, but that's the way it is. And it's not horrible. And even if you break up your rotation sometimes, overall you are giving more AP than knight, covering chosen AP weakness (remember if knight and chosen are both there, with the auras on*, none of them are giving AP; you still are tho)
* AP aura is actually not even in the first tier of useful auras for knight: Toughness, Resistance and Stay Focused!. If there are few casters (or you have 2 knights in a group) then you use AP aura instead of Resistance
With TYS you are a walking battery. Case closed. The only question left is, are you a Duracell or generic Alkaline brand.
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Re: IB Question
Seems you want to ignore half the aura s worth by only comparing the AP gain, well, then ofc you r right, TYS! is indeed stronger than half the aura, i have nothing to say against that, cased closed as you say.
Re: IB Question
You guys do know that Watch & learn (No WS buff to OF btw, only self to my recolection) do trigger from AOE right? so when that's pop'd you have time to potentially fill up your OF ap pool 3x times from that alone while still having Told Ya So helping out the whole groups Ap while spaming away all other grudge stuff (and the tics from Grumble An Mutter in the background giving ap for 30sec)
So yes, in a city fight 24v24 guarding a SL pref... you can easily give basicly him and group none stopp spam of abilites for 10sec plus, wait for W&L cd and go again. Grumble an mutter is slightly longer cd then W&L so will not always be there but still 50% it should be there.
So yes, in a city fight 24v24 guarding a SL pref... you can easily give basicly him and group none stopp spam of abilites for 10sec plus, wait for W&L cd and go again. Grumble an mutter is slightly longer cd then W&L so will not always be there but still 50% it should be there.
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Droze - Chosen
Inches - Ironbreaker
Trenwreck - BlackOrc
Vise - Blackguard
Drozez - KoTOPS!
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Droze - Chosen
Inches - Ironbreaker
Trenwreck - BlackOrc
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Drozez - KoTOPS!
CasperTFS - Marauder
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Re: IB Question
A few builds i run;
Orvr smallerscale, running & kiting stuff (For more static WB's swap out Avalanche for TyS)
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... ,3761,3763
WB's during City, Basicly a Ap/guard-bot enabling your group to perform better.
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... ,3763,3743
OT in sc's etc, unga bunga stumpy 2h.
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... ,3763,3742
LoB & Shitters.
Droze - Chosen
Inches - Ironbreaker
Trenwreck - BlackOrc
Vise - Blackguard
Drozez - KoTOPS!
CasperTFS - Marauder
Drozzen - Warriorpriest
Youtube;
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC3fjE ... subscriber
Droze - Chosen
Inches - Ironbreaker
Trenwreck - BlackOrc
Vise - Blackguard
Drozez - KoTOPS!
CasperTFS - Marauder
Drozzen - Warriorpriest
Youtube;
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Re: IB Question
Thank you! I just came back to the game from playing the full life cycle of the live version and see things have changed. Things seem much more well balanced now, minus unexpected patch stuff.
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