Re: SORC: what am I doing wrong?
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:41 am
I was talking about the dps classes that are actually good/useful in warband, group play and endgame.
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Its not viable. Ranged struggle at end game as melee train is much stronger. Sorc is best bet as they do have good burst and a good aoe spec for city.reistahlen wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:08 pm Sooooo... Are we actually saying that:
- As stated in the other topic, Magus is becoming subpar.
- In this thread, Sorc has also a hard time.
- And no need to speak about ranged SH.
So the only viable ranged DPS for Destruction is the Shaman?
Really? I thought they were supposed to be very similar. I played both and they seem like it, but maybe it's the higher up spells that I don't have access to that sets them apart. Can anyone list what makes a BW more superior than a Sorc? Like the spells mirrors and differences? I could have sworn BW had cooldown on their spells, but I'd have to go back and check. I'm currently leveling up a Sorc and I'm just curious to understand what the major differences are between the two classes.
BW can do AoE on the walk Sorc can't, almost all the skills are 3 sec cast or 6 sec channeled.xruptor wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:21 pm Really? I thought they were supposed to be very similar. I played both and they seem like it, but maybe it's the higher up spells that I don't have access to that sets them apart. Can anyone list what makes a BW more superior than a Sorc? Like the spells mirrors and differences? I could have sworn BW had cooldown on their spells, but I'd have to go back and check. I'm currently leveling up a Sorc and I'm just curious to understand what the major differences are between the two classes.
WOWzers.... That's just ludicrous looking at that list. I didn't think it was THAT BAD. I was doing fine on the Sorc and figured I had somewhat the same advantage and yet different skills as a BW, but didn't think the differences were this vastly inferior to the BW. That means that Sorc is close to complete trash next to it's counterpart. I supposed they wanted the Sorc to be more Single-target but it completely fell flat compared to the BW.notre wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:53 pmBW can do AoE on the walk Sorc can't, almost all the skills are 3 sec cast or 6 sec channeled.xruptor wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:21 pm Really? I thought they were supposed to be very similar. I played both and they seem like it, but maybe it's the higher up spells that I don't have access to that sets them apart. Can anyone list what makes a BW more superior than a Sorc? Like the spells mirrors and differences? I could have sworn BW had cooldown on their spells, but I'd have to go back and check. I'm currently leveling up a Sorc and I'm just curious to understand what the major differences are between the two classes.
Habilities:
BW (ST) 13 point Fireball Barrage ("free" AoE wich hits around 900/1k, 13 sec cooldown, built in the rotation )
Sorc (ST)13 point Shades of death (still ST, just around 700 damage in total, 5 sec cooldown, useless in the rotation for ST unless you are in party)
BW core Cauterize (removes EVERY dot, hex, curse aillment; 10 sec cooldown, gives HIGH survival)
Sorc core Shround of Darkness (gives 378 resis for 20 sec, 60 sec cooldown, one time use on fights)
BW Stop,Drop & roll (ranged KD)
Sorc Absorb vitality (a little self healdepending on the damage done)
BW Playing with fire (Heal debuff, instant, 30 sec cooldown)
Sorc Gloom of night (Aoe, 3 sec cast, 10 sec cooldown)
Tactics:
BW Flasfire (almost instant fireball)
Sorc Maniac Obsession (reduces cooldown on that skill)
There are more, but for me those make a huge difference.
VoP mirror? Not sure what you mean.Bozzax wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:36 pm Sorc was better ST before whiiiine gave BWs a VoP mirror (AOR).
Obsession nerf (AOR) and now in IW cooldown nerf (ROR). To be fair Sorc gained the damage morale which was dissapointing by itself (mirroring).
GoN used to proc afaik back in the days (Slayer ID mirror). EoP 5s cd nerf (WHs cry) and lifetap nerf (could have multiple ticking) killed solo play.
Biggest difference tho is order having more anti kite == RIP sorc
Wb play: sorc still ok