[DoK] Melee Heal (Shield) Spec Observations and Suggestions

[Asherdoom]

humble opinion: why dont give the shield DOK/WP a more tactical role? I mean as pure hybrid calss, if u opt for chalice ure healer, for 2 swords ure full dps, and if u opt with shield you got lower heal lower dps but more resistance (for example block etc) and making shields full thoughness and willpower to give DOK more staying power?

just my 2 cent idea,.

[Warfare80]

humble opinion: why dont give the shield DOK/WP a more tactical role? I mean as pure hybrid calss, if u opt for chalice ure healer, for 2 swords ure full dps, and if u opt with shield you got lower heal lower dps but more resistance (for example block etc) and making shields full thoughness and willpower to give DOK more staying power?

just my 2 cent idea,.

This is a good idea and i really like it. Im running Rydiaks specc viewtopic.php?f=113&t=30627&p=347196&hi ... ak#p347196 whenever im in Grace and im having lots of fun.
But i feel the lack of survivalbility. Adding some frontline survivalbility would make it even more fun and viable, and i do not think it would be op.

[Asherdoom]

humble opinion: why dont give the shield DOK/WP a more tactical role? I mean as pure hybrid calss, if u opt for chalice ure healer, for 2 swords ure full dps, and if u opt with shield you got lower heal lower dps but more resistance (for example block etc) and making shields full thoughness and willpower to give DOK more staying power?

just my 2 cent idea,.

This is a good idea and i really like it. Im running Rydiaks specc viewtopic.php?f=113&t=30627&p=347196&hi ... ak#p347196 whenever im in Grace and im having lots of fun.
But i feel the lack of survivalbility. Adding some frontline survivalbility would make it even more fun and viable, and i do not think it would be op.

Indeed, my idea is make DOK shielded more like a support frontilner rather than pure healer or pure dps. You can still HOT and heal (but ofc chalice dok is stronger) yet you got htoughness and willpower to emergency heal and hold your staying power in the frontline, without substituting a proper tank (that is wwhy i sugested shields for dok/wp give thoughness and willpower)

[Rydiak]

I've played a LOT of Grace. The only thing I think Grace/Sacrifice need is a slight buff to the cooldown of Sacrifice/Blood of my Blood. viewtopic.php?f=95&t=30772&p=348770#p348770

[dalen]

I've played a LOT of Grace. The only thing I think Grace/Sacrifice need is a slight buff to the cooldown of Sacrifice/Blood of my Blood. viewtopic.php?f=95&t=30772&p=348770#p348770

I'm also primarily a Grace WP player, and I agree that a cooldown decrease on Sacrifice/Blood of my Blood would be good.

Maybe also a duration increase from 10s to 15s on Divine Warden/Blood Guard, to increase AP efficiency somewhat and make it easier to keep the various buffs up without spending like a third of the GCDs on that.

[emiliorv]

I've played a LOT of Grace. The only thing I think Grace/Sacrifice need is a slight buff to the cooldown of Sacrifice/Blood of my Blood. viewtopic.php?f=95&t=30772&p=348770#p348770

Sorry for necro this post, but really have some points that actually want to get clear...

Regarding the spell sacrifice/blood of my blood => This spell works like a self-healtap?? you damage yourself to heal your grp (also consume career resource)...cuestions:

-Is affected by healing crit??
-Can crit?? if can...what % crit get?? how can improve the %crit?
-Self-damge can crit?
-Works like a direct heal?
-Can proc effects that procs from direct heals??
-Can proc effects that procs of getting damage?
(-I readed from another post that is not affectec by healdebuffs...ok)
-How can i improve the heal received for my hp consumed??
-spending points on tree increase the HP healed??
-The self-damage can be absorved if i got shielded??

Thx in advance

[Rydiak]

Sacrifice/BoMB is not affected (negative or positive) by any outside effects, and cannot be countered/mitigated in any way. It damages you for exactly what it says, and heals for exactly what it says.

[emiliorv]

Sacrifice/BoMB is not affected (negative or positive) by any outside effects, and cannot be countered/mitigated in any way. It damages you for exactly what it says, and heals for exactly what it says.

Well, ok thx.
I assume cant crit and cant trigger anything that comes from heals (tactics, weapon/set procs, etc..)

[Rydiak]

Correct!

[emiliorv]

Correct!

Thx again.