Your thoughts about Mara

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wachlarz
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Re: Your thoughts about Mara

Post#101 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:28 am

Mergrim wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:38 pm
Bignusty wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:33 pm I was on a city last night whit a mara aoe tard and champion on P3 wrecking ball everywhere you want to know the result ? just 19 kill and outdamaged by a non champion sorcerer dps .
There is a lot crap mara around thats said this class is weak.
Look at this city...look where is mara and where is choppa or slayer.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/943336702

Lets compare mara champ to slayer champ.
Shauril 81 mara(probably still not bis gear) 29kills 1 dead 5kk+ dmg done, normal armor and resist +ignore armor penetration 100%, 1k heal in 5sec(70-90% uptime)
vs
Zunig 85 slayer(probably bis) 11 kills 8 dead 3.27kkdmg done, maybe some ppl not notice he play with 100% rage uptime, so half armor and resist.

What you choose?

Still don't get why this monstro buff exist. It was broken on live server and its broken here. They made a bad change by giving the marauder 50% crit dmg tactic.
IF U wanna make less dmg in Wb just play as sava/brut. Problem solved.

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Mergrim
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Re: Your thoughts about Mara

Post#102 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:42 am

Bignusty wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:40 am He was full rr80+ geared ... You cant ask to choose between slayer and mara slayers are way far better on aoe than mara maybe for your exemple mara wb was better than slayer one .
Usually you get bis gear at 82+ as a mara, so im not sure. This mara outdps also 87rank choppa.
And look at Librium he is not good mara at all and still able to outdps choppa and slayer champ.

One thing should be done at mara monstro buff nerf or bring back old crit dmg tactic. They can run now with 100% hp and deal decent dmg in every spec.

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wachlarz
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Re: Your thoughts about Mara

Post#103 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:15 am

Mergrim wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:42 am
Bignusty wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:40 am He was full rr80+ geared ... You cant ask to choose between slayer and mara slayers are way far better on aoe than mara maybe for your exemple mara wb was better than slayer one .
Usually you get bis gear at 82+ as a mara, so im not sure. This mara outdps also 87rank choppa.
And look at Librium he is not good mara at all and still able to outdps choppa and slayer champ.

One thing should be done at mara monstro buff nerf or bring back old crit dmg tactic. They can run now with 100% hp and deal decent dmg in every spec.
Wow awsome ! On what serwer U play.

Mergrim
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Re: Your thoughts about Mara

Post#104 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:34 am

wachlarz wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:15 am
Mergrim wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:42 am
Bignusty wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:40 am He was full rr80+ geared ... You cant ask to choose between slayer and mara slayers are way far better on aoe than mara maybe for your exemple mara wb was better than slayer one .
Usually you get bis gear at 82+ as a mara, so im not sure. This mara outdps also 87rank choppa.
And look at Librium he is not good mara at all and still able to outdps choppa and slayer champ.

One thing should be done at mara monstro buff nerf or bring back old crit dmg tactic. They can run now with 100% hp and deal decent dmg in every spec.
Wow awsome ! On what serwer U play.
You only trolling. Prove it im wrong. Post already here many screenshot, now you have city video and you still think mara is weak...
Show me screenshot when decent choppa outdps decent mara by min 30% in city. With this tanky monstro spec he should deal min 30% overall less dmg than choppa.
4 class need nerf mara/wl/squig/sw.

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Re: Your thoughts about Mara

Post#105 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:16 am

Mergrim wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:42 am
Bignusty wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:40 am He was full rr80+ geared ... You cant ask to choose between slayer and mara slayers are way far better on aoe than mara maybe for your exemple mara wb was better than slayer one .
Usually you get bis gear at 82+ as a mara, so im not sure. This mara outdps also 87rank choppa.
And look at Librium he is not good mara at all and still able to outdps choppa and slayer champ.

One thing should be done at mara monstro buff nerf or bring back old crit dmg tactic. They can run now with 100% hp and deal decent dmg in every spec.
I was in city where bis geared choppa outdpsed bis geared mara by 1 million damage. Mara does not hit as hard as choppa. His damage comes from demolition + channel which hit all targets in range combined with jagged edge.
Theres definitely no need to nerf we talk about mara. Maybe light buffs in single target department( bring back wounds debuff value from prenerf and bring it back down in tree where it originaly was) 2H slayer's wounds debuff is higher than marauders curently.
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Re: Your thoughts about Mara

Post#106 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:29 am

mara vs choppa is a player issue, a choppa (vanq gear) playing just that toon can out dmg easy a xrealmer mara in bis that just log for city after receive a message in disc ;p

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Re: Your thoughts about Mara

Post#107 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:34 am

but for some reason this image of a player that play 24 toons in both factions seems to be great apreciated in our comunity :)

Mergrim
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Re: Your thoughts about Mara

Post#108 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:38 am

Wdova wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:16 am
Mergrim wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:42 am
Bignusty wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:40 am He was full rr80+ geared ... You cant ask to choose between slayer and mara slayers are way far better on aoe than mara maybe for your exemple mara wb was better than slayer one .
Usually you get bis gear at 82+ as a mara, so im not sure. This mara outdps also 87rank choppa.
And look at Librium he is not good mara at all and still able to outdps choppa and slayer champ.

One thing should be done at mara monstro buff nerf or bring back old crit dmg tactic. They can run now with 100% hp and deal decent dmg in every spec.
I was in city where bis geared choppa outdpsed bis geared mara by 1 million damage. Mara does not hit as hard as choppa. His damage comes from demolition + channel which hit all targets in range combined with jagged edge.
Theres definitely no need to nerf we talk about mara. Maybe light buffs in single target department( bring back wounds debuff value from prenerf and bring it back down in tree where it originaly was) 2H slayer's wounds debuff is higher than marauders curently.
Man show me screenshot when GREAT choppa outdps GREAT mara, not talking about all trash bis geared mara that have no clue how to play. Same quality players. Iit mara vs best choppa you know.
My mara is already bis gear and don't have single city when any choppa outdps me in dmg, and im tanky build with only 950str.

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wachlarz
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Re: Your thoughts about Mara

Post#109 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:02 pm

Mergrim wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:38 am
Wdova wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:16 am
Mergrim wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:42 am

Usually you get bis gear at 82+ as a mara, so im not sure. This mara outdps also 87rank choppa.
And look at Librium he is not good mara at all and still able to outdps choppa and slayer champ.

One thing should be done at mara monstro buff nerf or bring back old crit dmg tactic. They can run now with 100% hp and deal decent dmg in every spec.
I was in city where bis geared choppa outdpsed bis geared mara by 1 million damage. Mara does not hit as hard as choppa. His damage comes from demolition + channel which hit all targets in range combined with jagged edge.
Theres definitely no need to nerf we talk about mara. Maybe light buffs in single target department( bring back wounds debuff value from prenerf and bring it back down in tree where it originaly was) 2H slayer's wounds debuff is higher than marauders curently.
Man show me screenshot when GREAT choppa outdps GREAT mara, not talking about all trash bis geared mara that have no clue how to play. Same quality player. Iit mara vs best choppa you know.
My mara is already bis gear and don't have single city when any choppa outdps me in dmg, and im tanky build with only 950str.
I think U need start play profesional 6 vs 6 as monstro mara. I think all order premade will logout and wait when U end this dps madness. Find other mara monstro for premade party and devs for sure nerf this OP class. I see U like heal from monstro. Change meta in this game 3 monstro mara and 3 tanks in 6 vs 6 no healers, they dont make dmg and die fast. Dont use more str talis. When U will have 960 str U will make so big numbers and serwer will crash.
Why slayer play this same build in city and 6vs6 and mara cant ? Tell me this mystery ?

Mergrim
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Re: Your thoughts about Mara

Post#110 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:17 pm

wachlarz wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:02 pm
Mergrim wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:38 am
Wdova wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:16 am

I was in city where bis geared choppa outdpsed bis geared mara by 1 million damage. Mara does not hit as hard as choppa. His damage comes from demolition + channel which hit all targets in range combined with jagged edge.
Theres definitely no need to nerf we talk about mara. Maybe light buffs in single target department( bring back wounds debuff value from prenerf and bring it back down in tree where it originaly was) 2H slayer's wounds debuff is higher than marauders curently.
Man show me screenshot when GREAT choppa outdps GREAT mara, not talking about all trash bis geared mara that have no clue how to play. Same quality player. Iit mara vs best choppa you know.
My mara is already bis gear and don't have single city when any choppa outdps me in dmg, and im tanky build with only 950str.
I think U need start play profesional 6 vs 6 as monstro mara. I think all order premade will logout and wait when U end this dps madness. Find other mara monstro for premade party and devs for sure nerf this OP class. I see U like heal from monstro. Change meta in this game 3 monstro mara and 3 tanks in 6 vs 6 no healers, they dont make dmg and die fast. Dont use more str talis. When U will have 960 str U will make so big numbers and serwer will crash.
Why slayer play this same build in city and 6vs6 and mara cant ? Tell me this mystery ?
Monstro mara is for wb/city not for 6 vs 6. Sav/brut mara still much better than choppa/wl.(yesterday have ranked with Iit mara vs Koryll wl both bis gear Iit over 200k dmg done wl 113k, 10min sc with draw 0 kills on both side)
Switch build is only problem for mara, 6vs6 go sava/brut, city/rvr go monstro. Seriously so big problem to respec when its free?

It's so dumb argument...why i need spec self heal on choppa/slayer if i want solo roam? why i need spec aoe magius for city...etc...

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