Your thoughts about Mara

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Re: Your thoughts about Mara

Post#121 » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:30 am

Mergrim wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:17 pm
wachlarz wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:02 pm
Mergrim wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:38 am

Man show me screenshot when GREAT choppa outdps GREAT mara, not talking about all trash bis geared mara that have no clue how to play. Same quality player. Iit mara vs best choppa you know.
My mara is already bis gear and don't have single city when any choppa outdps me in dmg, and im tanky build with only 950str.
I think U need start play profesional 6 vs 6 as monstro mara. I think all order premade will logout and wait when U end this dps madness. Find other mara monstro for premade party and devs for sure nerf this OP class. I see U like heal from monstro. Change meta in this game 3 monstro mara and 3 tanks in 6 vs 6 no healers, they dont make dmg and die fast. Dont use more str talis. When U will have 960 str U will make so big numbers and serwer will crash.
Why slayer play this same build in city and 6vs6 and mara cant ? Tell me this mystery ?
Monstro mara is for wb/city not for 6 vs 6. Sav/brut mara still much better than choppa/wl.(yesterday have ranked with Iit mara vs Koryll wl both bis gear Iit over 200k dmg done wl 113k, 10min sc with draw 0 kills on both side)
Switch build is only problem for mara, 6vs6 go sava/brut, city/rvr go monstro. Seriously so big problem to respec when its free?

It's so dumb argument...why i need spec self heal on choppa/slayer if i want solo roam? why i need spec aoe magius for city...etc...
bro== stop switch the point to aoe mara dps== just stop it== u dont event know what we are talking about==,do not always switch the point to aoe dps...and go read what we old maras saying....u just played this game not even 5year? i played mara at least 8~9 years and not onlt me but others old mara...just read their topic and read what are they saying pls-.-

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Re: Your thoughts about Mara

Post#122 » Fri May 14, 2021 2:55 pm

Im New and i want play Mara ans use a spec mono. Its a Bad choice? Mara IS a week classe?

Jastojan
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Re: Your thoughts about Mara

Post#123 » Fri May 14, 2021 3:15 pm

Mergrim wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:07 pm
Pandastyle wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:59 pm
Mergrim wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:38 am

Man show me screenshot when GREAT choppa outdps GREAT mara, not talking about all trash bis geared mara that have no clue how to play. Same quality players. Iit mara vs best choppa you know.
My mara is already bis gear and don't have single city when any choppa outdps me in dmg, and im tanky build with only 950str.
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Arwhin and Brodda both BiS rr80++ and know how to play their class, I know both of them. Idk Hoju tho.
I can provide a ton more of those :D unfortunately we didnt take screen when we ran alliance wb and our 4 choppas all were top dmg and then our two mara
I mean we can throw screens at each other for eternity and get no consensus I guess just wanted to throw this one in here.
Like i write before Librium is not good mara at all and he able to outdps choppa 87 and slayer 85 champ.
Brodda is really weak to and he is not bis. It's same like Rolgrom. Leader but weak player . Bis for mara is 5sove 2conq 2 senti and he mix 5sove with something i don't remember what.
Here you are - screenshots. GREAT played choppa vs GREAT mara (side note: just pretend there are slayers much higher than WLs on the scoreboard - in comparison to Mara vs. Choppa).

https://imgur.com/MIrvc26
https://imgur.com/H4Gos01

But, the game should not be balanced on the screenshots. There are too many factors which have impact on the numbers. Anyway dont ask for nerfs, please. Ask for buffs instead. Ty.

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Re: Your thoughts about Mara

Post#124 » Fri May 14, 2021 4:45 pm

How many Marauders are topping city charts without Jagged Edge and can prove it?
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Mergrim
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Re: Your thoughts about Mara

Post#125 » Fri May 14, 2021 4:49 pm

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Show me screenshot when any choppa outdps this mara on city.

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Here is screenshot when my mara still gear up and Slipwinta(FMJ) was 86renown rank.

One more thing:
Brodda is far away from good mara.

Jastojan
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Re: Your thoughts about Mara

Post#126 » Fri May 14, 2021 5:44 pm

Mergrim wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 4:49 pm Image

Show me screenshot when any choppa outdps this mara on city.

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Here is screenshot when my mara still gear up and Slipwinta(FMJ) was 86renown rank.

One more thing:
Brodda is far away from good mara.
First screenshot - there is no choppa at all, so it means really nothing + kill ratio almost 500 vs 130 (4:1). You asked for GREAT choppa vs GREAT mara and you posted this? - I posted screenshots from pretty even fights, check it one more time.
Second screenshot again. High RR, ok. What does the GREAT player mean to you?

Anyway, it is wasting of time to write anything because it looks like you do not even read.
I will write it one more time for you(maybe this time...): the game balance should NOT be based on the screenshots from cities. There are too many factors which have impact on the numbers.
AND there is no screenshot in this world you will be ok with. It looks like you are just picking what you already want/need.

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Re: Your thoughts about Mara

Post#127 » Fri May 14, 2021 8:50 pm

For what I need to do with him, awesome fun. But I'm not exactly a hardcore PvP guy(or that hardcore at all anymore), so...

...just giving you another perspective. For "casual" fun, you can hardly beat Mara. He can solo, he can group, he can PvE, he can PvP...I can just wish Chosen was even half of him.

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Re: Your thoughts about Mara

Post#128 » Sat May 15, 2021 1:37 am

I have seen few cities when same geared choppa and mara both 80+,both off sov, both Bloodlord + fortres weapons and choppa outdpsed mara by a 1 mil+. damage even he died more times than mara.

I still think choppa can outdps Mara in both ST and AOE even without crit tactic, flanking or jagged edge. Most of mara damage outpoot in cities are from spreading jaged edge, most kills are from switching to Brut for guilotine on targets at low health.

Mara is not trash tier like some ppl say. Its verry compact dps with great survivability, utility. I think its ok if Mara has slightly lower damage than choppa because of his survivability is much higher.

I like and enjoy playing both classes.

Edit: I still think that double TB wounds debuff nerf wasnt necesary. It should be original value at 13 points or curent value down at 6 pts. Curently there is no point going up in Savagery tree because wounds debuff can by covered by BG which has it AOE at same Value or Chosens AOE one
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