[Mara] Current state of the class?

[wildwindblows]

Choppa and SL are currently very well balanced when it comes to aoe.
Instead, I expect a strong reinforcement of the 2h ST spec (finally).

wl, mara and rsh are well balanced too. Obviously you expect nerf except your main. This is not a good attitude!

Yes choppa is my main char on destro which I do not play because I play all tanks and healers in the game. Just like SL on order side.
I made the suggestion myself to nerf choppa/sl as the suggestion required so I can safely refute your argument.
The current suggestions about wl/mar I make because I am not blind.
Take a peek at the voting post and you'll see that 90% of players think so. And more significantly some of the better players playing wl/mara confirm this.

What matters isn't what players want, but what the data shows. Developers should be looking at data, not player feedback. The game is already unbalanced because of whiny players constantly demanding nerfs.

[Alubert]

It seems that we are playing two different games.
I think but this is my opinion, you may have a different point of view, that the game is balanced well as never in history.
All tanks and healers are unique and playable. Most dps too except for a few classes/specs.
Wl/mara/rsh leads the way in this imbalance.
Date: rsh - only rdps that can kill healer on detaunt
Wl/mara aoe channel: one tic channel 1.7k+ dmg. Just one tic. 13 sec CD on skill. 9 sec window between using again.
New arm pene tactic caused wl/mara spin to gain an incredible bonus to arm pene. How aoe skill can hit so hard? Completely sick situation when using aoe skill pays off against one target.
Of course you may not see it but some of the best wl/mara players on the server are talking about it themselves.

[wildwindblows]

It seems that we are playing two different games.
I think but this is my opinion, you may have a different point of view, that the game is balanced well as never in history.
All tanks and healers are unique and playable. Most dps too except for a few classes/specs.
Wl/mara/rsh leads the way in this imbalance.
Date: rsh - only rdps that can kill healer on detaunt
Wl/mara aoe channel: one tic channel 1.7k+ dmg. Just one tic. 13 sec CD on skill. 9 sec window between using again.
New arm pene tactic caused wl/mara spin to gain an incredible bonus to arm pene. How aoe skill can hit so hard? Completely sick situation when using aoe skill pays off against one target.
Of course you may not see it but some of the best wl/mara players on the server are talking about it themselves.

I think you or your tank dont know how to taunt channels. It sounds like l2p issue.

[Alubert]

I don't want to get into personal discussions here because it doesn't lead in the right direction.
But even if you are prepared for an interrupt it will still enter one or two tics (unless you have a taunt/other interrapt on CD).
Besides, when there are 3-4 spinning wl/mara per square meter it is still impossible.
Additionally, mara/wl pull should be a skill available only as a 13 mastery point ST tree.
Anyway, the future will show who was right whether choppa/sl will get a nerf as you claim or maybe wl/mara as I postulate.

And back to the topic then yes, level up your mara because you couldn't have hit on destro better.

[wildwindblows]

I don't want to get into personal discussions here because it doesn't lead in the right direction.
But even if you are prepared for an interrupt it will still enter one or two tics (unless you have a taunt/other interrapt on CD).
Besides, when there are 3-4 spinning wl/mara per square meter it is still impossible.
Additionally, mara/wl pull should be a skill available only as a 13 mastery point ST tree.
Anyway, the future will show who was right whether choppa/sl will get a nerf as you claim or maybe wl/mara as I postulate.

And back to the topic then yes, level up your mara because you couldn't have hit on destro better.

Aoe skills shouldn't outperform st damage anyways.But here aoe hits more than st. This is a thing needs to be fixed.

[Alubert]

I don't want to get into personal discussions here because it doesn't lead in the right direction.
But even if you are prepared for an interrupt it will still enter one or two tics (unless you have a taunt/other interrapt on CD).
Besides, when there are 3-4 spinning wl/mara per square meter it is still impossible.
Additionally, mara/wl pull should be a skill available only as a 13 mastery point ST tree.
Anyway, the future will show who was right whether choppa/sl will get a nerf as you claim or maybe wl/mara as I postulate.

And back to the topic then yes, level up your mara because you couldn't have hit on destro better.

Aoe skills shouldn't outperform st damage anyways.But here aoe hits more than st. This is a thing needs to be fixed.

100% agree

[illumius]

I don't want to get into personal discussions here because it doesn't lead in the right direction.
But even if you are prepared for an interrupt it will still enter one or two tics (unless you have a taunt/other interrapt on CD).
Besides, when there are 3-4 spinning wl/mara per square meter it is still impossible.
Additionally, mara/wl pull should be a skill available only as a 13 mastery point ST tree.
Anyway, the future will show who was right whether choppa/sl will get a nerf as you claim or maybe wl/mara as I postulate.

And back to the topic then yes, level up your mara because you couldn't have hit on destro better.

Aoe skills shouldn't outperform st damage anyways.But here aoe hits more than st. This is a thing needs to be fixed.

need 9 or 12 aoe cap