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Orgruk
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Re: Choppa End Game Gear

Post#31 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:47 am

CountTalabecland wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:52 pm
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Orgruk wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:25 pm
Grock wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:35 pm How do you get that much WS and crit at the same time? :)
WS capped = 1050? 65% armpen = including Sov bonuses, or just flat from WS?

Parry value is from character window i suppose? Seems a bit high for .getstats coz it doesn't count WS (ws parry based on attacker's str)
Right with my second test set and without potions :
- 1051 STR
- 810 WS
- 57.9% arpen (add 10% to this from the sov)
- 9600 hp
- 19% melee crit
- 217 dmg bonus
- 35.8% pary (add 10% to this from dual wield)

And this RR setup : link

Right now I love both of the test sets could it be crit/arpen or full arpen, really hard to choose from. :D
Damn that’s some nice armor pen.

The renown points mostly make sense.

But, Where is that parry number from, paper doll or .getstats? That seems really high with not investing in reflexes.

Right now from paper doll that's why you got to add the 10% from Dual Wield. The whole number comes from the WS and stuff itself, didn't invest in parry jewelry at all ;)
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Re: Choppa End Game Gear

Post#32 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:49 am

Orgruk wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:25 pm
Right with my second test set and without potions :
- 1051 STR
- 810 WS
- 57.9% arpen (add 10% to this from the sov)
- 9600 hp
- 19% melee crit
- 217 dmg bonus
- 35.8% pary (add 10% to this from dual wield)

And this RR setup : link

Right now I love both of the test sets could it be crit/arpen or full arpen, really hard to choose from. :D

So whats the armour, jewels and talis for this setup? pretty keen to try it as a fresh RR80
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Orgruk
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Re: Choppa End Game Gear

Post#33 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:18 am

Razorfoot wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:49 am So whats the armour, jewels and talis for this setup? pretty keen to try it as a fresh RR80
You can see it on my character sheet in the armory : right here

Talismans full WS ;)
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Grock
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Re: Choppa End Game Gear

Post#34 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:02 pm

Orgruk wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:25 pm Right now I love both of the test sets could it be crit/arpen or full arpen, really hard to choose from. :D
I experimented for a bit and looks like i can get 1057 WS with liniment if i change some things, but without losing too much, gonna try it at some point just for the laugh :)
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Orgruk
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Re: Choppa End Game Gear

Post#35 » Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:59 am

Don't hesitate to give feedback about your tests. :)
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Re: Choppa End Game Gear

Post#36 » Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:38 am

Guys parry formula is dynamics. Parry given by WS depends on attacker strength. There is no formula like "x WS= y% parry". Parry formula is: [(your WS)/(attacker Str)]x7.5%. Also WS contribution to parry is capped at 25%.
So, what does it mean this formula? Suppose you have 1050 WS.
If the attacker has 1050 strength you will gain (from WS) (1050)/(1050)x7.5%=7.5% parry.
If the attacker has 500 strength you will gain from WS 15% parry.
Stardoll don't work, the only real value can be calculated by some good old math+getstat
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Grock
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Re: Choppa End Game Gear

Post#37 » Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:39 pm

Yeah, asically if you have same WS as attacker's STR you gain 7.5% parry
To get max value you need to have 3 times more WS than enemy STR
Its very good vs def tanks, but less potent vs other DPS
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Re: Choppa End Game Gear

Post#38 » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:36 pm

My latest workings have been to get 1100 strength (with potion). This allows for max MP bonus and a cushion for strength debuffs. Lose a lot of other things of course, but in a group setting those can be made up. I'm one wing of BS away from the cloak, then I can maximize my MP and see how that goes.
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Re: Choppa End Game Gear

Post#39 » Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:28 pm

Latest tests, kinda love it :

- 1059 STR without potion
- 751 WS
- 9690 pv
- Armor Pen. : 53.6% +10% sov
- 218 melee dmg
- 24% crit (without senti tali)
- Parry : 37.6% + 10% dual wield

RR setup : link
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Re: Choppa End Game Gear

Post#40 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:33 pm

Orgruk wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:28 pm Latest tests, kinda love it :

- 1059 STR without potion
- 751 WS
- 9690 pv
- Armor Pen. : 53.6% +10% sov
- 218 melee dmg
- 24% crit (without senti tali)
- Parry : 37.6% + 10% dual wield

RR setup : link
nice, what armor combination you using?

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