Choppa's problems

[Ysaran]

RoR.builders - Choppa

Drop easy killin for BF if you have a zele/dok/chosen

ok, but this isn't the only build. in addition this could work well only for large scale, there is small scale too.
i still dont understand why you think my proposal is bad. to switch a couple of tactic will enrich the number of build available, why is it so bad for you?

[Bozzax]

Yes that is an aoe spec

Smallscale use hurubs spec or this https://officialrorbuilder.herokuapp.co ... ,4679,4687

Snare, hd, slasha,gfdss

[Ysaran]

Yes that is an aoe spec

Smallscale use hurubs spec or this https://officialrorbuilder.herokuapp.co ... ,4679,4687

Snare, hd, slasha,gfdss

still dont get what's wrong with diversifying choppa build. this two build will still available, it would change nothing those for who use them.

[mubbl]

Can anybody explain me why ygs is so unbelivable bad?
If you do aoe dmg for example gtdc, someone parries, you get a pull, maybe a squishy, into healdebuff and gfdss.
And why is a 20sec long 5 sec cd decrease bad?
My view point is from semi casual wb play...and if you take a bg either for last decent aoe snare on destro or crimson death, you can either give him dps/utility spot (morelikely if 2h) or give him a tank spot(snb). This makes you fill the other tank spot mostlikley with a choosen for resi aura, so you need a choppa to counter shattered. And CH doesnt have the of bo mechanic you can have it in a gcd and not 2-2.5 like bo. Which is huge for your healers, there for warband.

[Ysaran]

YGS is bad because other tactic grants you higher damage bonus and thus YGS dont worth a slot. in addition in large scale is pointless to take healdebuf and other path of da savege abilities dont deal much damage. in addtion if you are in large scale is useless to use a ST ability (even with 100% crit chance) instead of an aoe ability that can do up to 1k damage to up to 9 ppl.
if you are in small scale ability like flanking or stab you gooder will grant you much more substained damage considered that most of the time you try to hit ppl from side/behinde. hitting ppl from side/behinde prevent them to parry/block and thus YGS will never proc.

Chop Fasta isnt bad, but it dont woth a mastery point. in both smallscale and largescale is more convenient to take a BO since WAAAAGH deal aoe damage, aoe decrease corp resist, increase party AA speed and deacrease party CD by 5s.
the problem with chop fasta is that it isn't comparable with niether WAAAAGH nor shatter limbs.
easiest soluton would be to add a damage component to chopa fasta.

[oaliaen]

YGS can be worth it if GM let all skills be used whit the tactic. Even whit 3-5 sec duration.

[Bozzax]

That would be super broken with aoe

[TenTonHammer]

Do we even need it to be crit? Is it necessary for YGS to stay the same concept as it is?

What if when your attacks is get defended you ignore a low amount of armor for a 2-3 seconds like 200-300 armor in a similar way to Mara impale

Would you use this tactic over BF, DWLF, DB and SYG I don’t know

[Ysaran]

Do we even need it to be crit? Is it necessary for YGS to stay the same concept as it is?

What if when your attacks is get defended you ignore a low amount of armor for a 2-3 seconds like 200-300 armor in a similar way to Mara impale

Would you use this tactic over BF, DWLF, DB and SYG I don’t know

Aoe armor debuff would be op since the ones which parry/block are tanks.
But I get your point, so what about a parry+block debuff? Like 7% or something like that, like SH's one

[TenTonHammer]

Do we even need it to be crit? Is it necessary for YGS to stay the same concept as it is?

What if when your attacks is get defended you ignore a low amount of armor for a 2-3 seconds like 200-300 armor in a similar way to Mara impale

Would you use this tactic over BF, DWLF, DB and SYG I don’t know

Aoe armor debuff would be op since the ones which parry/block are tanks.
But I get your point, so what about a parry+block debuff? Like 7% or something like that, like SH's one

Would step on drop da basha’s toes a bit but it would give choppa some utility that would make them more desirereable for an outside of GTTC


Do wanna just throw it out there that we already got a better AoE armor debuff with zealot demonic spittle tactic so I don’t think it would be that crazy