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[shaman] Run Away Fundamentally the Most OP Tactic in Game?

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TenTonHammer
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Re: [shaman] Run Away Fundamentally the Most OP Tactic in Ga

Post#21 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:35 pm

Until destroy confidence is changed....
Shammy x any heal combo is not good
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Re: [shaman] Run Away Fundamentally the Most OP Tactic in Ga

Post#22 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:00 pm

TenTonHammer wrote:Until destroy confidence is changed....
Shammy x any heal combo is not good
It was not that bad in t4 on live and we are in t3, where DC is 5ft and no tactic yet.
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Re: [shaman] Run Away Fundamentally the Most OP Tactic in Ga

Post#23 » Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:07 pm

Scrilian wrote:
TenTonHammer wrote:Until destroy confidence is changed....
Shammy x any heal combo is not good
It was not that bad in t4 on live and we are in t3, where DC is 5ft and no tactic yet.
we are in a t3 where dok take 1k hit from bw fireballs on a 4k wounds bar. Shammy do not even have the time to run away a rkd is alredy enough to kill him. Different story for am , no rkd , cast time reduction.

Definettly no the best moment for shammy imo.
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Re: [shaman] Run Away Fundamentally the Most OP Tactic in Ga

Post#24 » Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:06 pm

Tesq wrote: we are in a t3 where dok take 1k hit from bw fireballs on a 4k wounds bar. Shammy do not even have the time to run away a rkd is alredy enough to kill him. Different story for am , no rkd , cast time reduction.

Definettly no the best moment for shammy imo.
You clearly do something wrong with ur dok + shammy...
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Re: [shaman] Run Away Fundamentally the Most OP Tactic in Ga

Post#25 » Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:09 pm

Scrilian wrote:
TenTonHammer wrote:Until destroy confidence is changed....
Shammy x any heal combo is not good
It was not that bad in t4 on live and we are in t3, where DC is 5ft and no tactic yet.
I remember vids of Runefang + Emperor's Champion + Destroy Confidence oneshotting shaman in t4. Could do similar to whoever shaman was hotting up.

Plus it would make Sorcs not user their buffs since that's an easy 2 shatters right there.
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Re: [shaman] Run Away Fundamentally the Most OP Tactic in Ga

Post#26 » Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:33 pm

Vdova wrote:
TenTonHammer wrote:
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many of the anti kite tools that order has such as multiple rkds , pounce etc is said to be justified due to run away allowing shamans/shs to be one of the best kiters in the game
So technicaly removing run away tactic will lead to removing ranged KDs from order range DPS and also removing pounce? I see it like fair deal :-) Please devs just remove run away tactic from gobos same as ranged KDs from SW/BW and pounce from WL(give them wounds/toughnes debuff insted). Everyones happy :-)))
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Order really is an easy mode with all these RKD bots and Pounce bots. I will gladly drop my Run Away! if they drop those OP skills (4sec KD = death, pounce midair/in water = gamebreaking).

Also most OP tactic in game is fundamentaly KOTB´s +10% party crit :geek:
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Re: [shaman] Run Away Fundamentally the Most OP Tactic in Ga

Post#27 » Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:10 pm

Tesq wrote:
we are in a t3 where dok take 1k hit from bw fireballs on a 4k wounds bar.
Do you say that DOK have a better defense against magical attacks than Shamans?
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Re: [shaman] Run Away Fundamentally the Most OP Tactic in Ga

Post#28 » Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:58 pm

Sulorie wrote:
Tesq wrote:
we are in a t3 where dok take 1k hit from bw fireballs on a 4k wounds bar.
Do you say that DOK have a better defense against magical attacks than Shamans?
it's the same with a chosne aura, but appart from that 1k damage from fireball on a 4.6k life is really a lot for a class that suppose to be a front line healer. I overcap resistences specifically to avoid these things. Which is why those so high crits feel very odd.
Annaines pointed out it may be a problem with mitigation calculation regarding toughness anyway. Didn't understood if only on combat log or about damage output.
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Re: [shaman] Run Away Fundamentally the Most OP Tactic in Ga

Post#29 » Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:59 pm

Sulorie wrote:
Tesq wrote:
we are in a t3 where dok take 1k hit from bw fireballs on a 4k wounds bar.
Do you say that DOK have a better defense against magical attacks than Shamans?
Must be their armor...









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Re: [shaman] Run Away Fundamentally the Most OP Tactic in Ga

Post#30 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 5:00 pm

Scrilian wrote:
TenTonHammer wrote:Until destroy confidence is changed....
Shammy x any heal combo is not good
It was not that bad in t4 on live and we are in t3, where DC is 5ft and no tactic yet.
I believe I've heard that DC will remain 5ft in RoR. I play knight a lot and as much as I want to win and be awesome, I am still a little skeptical of x3 shatter even at melee range.
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