You have to consider I'm relatively high rr (71) which means I have extra mastery points as well. Afaik you get your last mastery point at 70, so I am maxed out.
As for rr points: I always max out block first, for RvR - DD 3, RD 3, futile strikes 1, then the rest into toughness and initiative, and I usually have a point or 2 left which I just put into wounds or something, which really makes no big difference. For snowflaking - max block again, DD 4, might 4, and FS/initiative. For group play it depends on what kind of tank you want to be. But I always take block and DD 3 at least, and RD 3, then initiative/FS, and depending on what you want either might or toughness for the rest few points which I think I have usually.
I should probably go more points into ini, especially if you're soloing.
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Re: [Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.
Figured I might as well post the video here also. This is what you might expect from solo black orc-ing. But it certainly doesn't show you the full capabilities, since I'm far from a perfect player, and I was experimenting with different builds. As it says it's composed of two videos a month apart. Older one is in Caledor. I wanted to go over the builds.
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nice vid! liked the BOvEngi + WH most. saw it already yesterday once.
and yeah 5 pcs genesis is generally a bit trashy, perhabs for your selfheal / selfsustain build a little better suited, but the stat loss is so harsh for everything else (especially the red easter egg is a triggering one). perhabs in conjunction with the new wep the regen could add up for solo roaming, but I'm unsure tbh. If I rememb the vid right I only saw you 2 times hp wise in real danger. for me the cloak and the easteregg are just slot wasters in my bagpack. so any science regarding your build has to be done by you.
But nontheless that selfheal turtle build really adds something fresh and creative.
For my and Gromers (choppa) last conqs (luckily he won another gold while we were roaming, otherwise we would still duo everyday x) ) we solo'd / duo'd together, I used: full BL, 3pcs Dom, genesis set of the everlasting 3pcs (remnant, fragment, aspect), SCII def shield, subju wep (my little special snowflake, I think the procc is undervalued by many ppl, really like it for 3hc and boss specc), both crit tactics, loudmouth, and 10% block, RR spend in Str, D, DD, WS. my mentioned above talent specc (tree hit + aoe snare). was great fun too. jump targets and burst them down, but I / we needed to be a bit more picky about the fights (can't stand the numbers you are tanking there with that kind of build, also meh for roaming with a choppa cause he will be dead before me), but was great to see again 3x digets on my BO that don't start with a 1,2,3 or 4. x)
about playstyle:
think nothing to moan about in the execution. seems pretty solid.
about armbreaka, think you done good in not using it in 1vX, only shines in my opinion in a 1v1 or small scale vs small scale situation in my opinion.
and I personally would consider using M1 demolishing and M2 Shield Wall. Especially Shield Wall can buy some time for a comeback or extra annoyance. especially good vs WH.
so looking forward for the next video and when more research is done with updated equipment!
and yeah 5 pcs genesis is generally a bit trashy, perhabs for your selfheal / selfsustain build a little better suited, but the stat loss is so harsh for everything else (especially the red easter egg is a triggering one). perhabs in conjunction with the new wep the regen could add up for solo roaming, but I'm unsure tbh. If I rememb the vid right I only saw you 2 times hp wise in real danger. for me the cloak and the easteregg are just slot wasters in my bagpack. so any science regarding your build has to be done by you.
But nontheless that selfheal turtle build really adds something fresh and creative.
For my and Gromers (choppa) last conqs (luckily he won another gold while we were roaming, otherwise we would still duo everyday x) ) we solo'd / duo'd together, I used: full BL, 3pcs Dom, genesis set of the everlasting 3pcs (remnant, fragment, aspect), SCII def shield, subju wep (my little special snowflake, I think the procc is undervalued by many ppl, really like it for 3hc and boss specc), both crit tactics, loudmouth, and 10% block, RR spend in Str, D, DD, WS. my mentioned above talent specc (tree hit + aoe snare). was great fun too. jump targets and burst them down, but I / we needed to be a bit more picky about the fights (can't stand the numbers you are tanking there with that kind of build, also meh for roaming with a choppa cause he will be dead before me), but was great to see again 3x digets on my BO that don't start with a 1,2,3 or 4. x)
about playstyle:
think nothing to moan about in the execution. seems pretty solid.
about armbreaka, think you done good in not using it in 1vX, only shines in my opinion in a 1v1 or small scale vs small scale situation in my opinion.
and I personally would consider using M1 demolishing and M2 Shield Wall. Especially Shield Wall can buy some time for a comeback or extra annoyance. especially good vs WH.
so looking forward for the next video and when more research is done with updated equipment!
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Yea I messed up with the morales totally lol. There is no point in having raze and champions of course. Like I said, that spec was totally stupid xD But I really have to farm SCs for those nice weapons :/
I'm glad you liked the vid. I honestly have no idea how I managed to survive engie+wh lol. It's not to say that they are bad players, far from it. I miserably failed when I tried to solo 2 engies that same day, and that wh would've killed me once at least, had I not gotten help. Another thing is my key bingding. You probably noticed I have to click on many somewhat important skills (like juggernaut). I fixed that today though so I won't have trouble anymore
So you ran a spec that's the complete opposite of me The damage tactics for BO are very nice if you stack all of them. I did it as well, and it sure is nice to see the damage (although I never had increased crit dmg tactic). BO can definitely put on a world of hurt. My general mentality about this kind of solo roaming though is "the more you last the more damage you deal". The problem of course are the healers, since you have no real burst or heal debuff. But you could still make them panic a bit if they ignore you, or if they are slightly bellow average players.
I'm liking this last build I posted with THC and CHM, it's pretty fun. The morale pump helps a lot, and KD can be annoying as hell. I will make more vids for sure
I'm glad you liked the vid. I honestly have no idea how I managed to survive engie+wh lol. It's not to say that they are bad players, far from it. I miserably failed when I tried to solo 2 engies that same day, and that wh would've killed me once at least, had I not gotten help. Another thing is my key bingding. You probably noticed I have to click on many somewhat important skills (like juggernaut). I fixed that today though so I won't have trouble anymore
So you ran a spec that's the complete opposite of me The damage tactics for BO are very nice if you stack all of them. I did it as well, and it sure is nice to see the damage (although I never had increased crit dmg tactic). BO can definitely put on a world of hurt. My general mentality about this kind of solo roaming though is "the more you last the more damage you deal". The problem of course are the healers, since you have no real burst or heal debuff. But you could still make them panic a bit if they ignore you, or if they are slightly bellow average players.
I'm liking this last build I posted with THC and CHM, it's pretty fun. The morale pump helps a lot, and KD can be annoying as hell. I will make more vids for sure
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If you have decided against running PlanB and NB (can totally understand that, but as I mentioned, fingers hurt than), I would consider binding the navigation (WASD) to ESDF or even RDFG. that way you free up muliple keys which are easily reachable for your small and ring finger. (my old warcraft binds). Pretty easy fix if you still strugle or have space problems.Collateral wrote: You probably noticed I have to click on many somewhat important skills (like juggernaut). I fixed that today though so I won't have trouble anymore
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That's not a bad idea at all, but another problem is that I'm on a laptop which has that finger pad right bellow the space bar, so I would constantly move the camera with my thumb xDragafury wrote:If you have decided against running PlanB and NB (can totally understand that, but as I mentioned, fingers hurt than), I would consider binding the navigation (WASD) to ESDF or even RDFG. that way you free up muliple keys which are easily reachable for your small and ring finger. (my old warcraft binds). Pretty easy fix if you still strugle or have space problems.
I might try out planb, but I'll have to figure out how to configure it.
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Collateral wrote:Figured I might as well post the video here also. This is what you might expect from solo black orc-ing. But it certainly doesn't show you the full capabilities, since I'm far from a perfect player, and I was experimenting with different builds. As it says it's composed of two videos a month apart. Older one is in Caledor. I wanted to go over the builds.
Click here to watch on YouTube
A lot of text incoming!
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Tnx The addon is Buffhead, it's a must have really.
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Addon did alot. Thx
Been running my lowbie BO lvl 13 solo in T1 latley, had a blast.
2H with parry and toughness/armor talismans. I know how to deal with the offensive stats, but not quiet sure what way you go with the def stats.
Been running my lowbie BO lvl 13 solo in T1 latley, had a blast.
2H with parry and toughness/armor talismans. I know how to deal with the offensive stats, but not quiet sure what way you go with the def stats.
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That's pretty much it for defensive stats, armour and toughness. For large scale go with wounds, but that's when you reach higher tiers (although, I always run the wounds tactic in lower tiers, it's really good, and it's pretty much the only viable one). Since you're T1 you don't have to worry about it too much, you get stats from gear and da biggest. Also don't forget about initiative. When you get to t3 and up, you should always keep it above 220.
I think it's quite obvious by now how I dislike 2h bos so I won't repeat my self haha. Once you get to higher tiers I would really recommend going snb. As a 2h you will constantly be the target, which means you will be under pressure almost non stop. And if you're speced offensively you will feel the heat trust me. There are plenty of snb builds from good players in this thread, so be sure to check them out. And of course, never be afraid to ask what you need if you ever run into a me in-game
I think it's quite obvious by now how I dislike 2h bos so I won't repeat my self haha. Once you get to higher tiers I would really recommend going snb. As a 2h you will constantly be the target, which means you will be under pressure almost non stop. And if you're speced offensively you will feel the heat trust me. There are plenty of snb builds from good players in this thread, so be sure to check them out. And of course, never be afraid to ask what you need if you ever run into a me in-game
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