ASW vs WE fights

[Farrul]

In theory regen we shouldn't lose to anyone in a 1v1.
Then again pretty much every class with regen spec is usually on the winning side when it comes to duels against non regen specs (or classes that don't have self sustain).

I've had alot of fun with asw but I kinda wish there were other classes to fight other than magus and regen we's xD

Yes except for a decent AM on order side i don't see them losing to much . Maybe SM with M3 up.

SW is really fun but too bad ASW is the most nerfed spec on the server, hence some of these WE's are unacceptable ( although you did well, from what i can see )

[Stinksuit]

In theory regen we shouldn't lose to anyone in a 1v1.
Then again pretty much every class with regen spec is usually on the winning side when it comes to duels against non regen specs (or classes that don't have self sustain).

I've had alot of fun with asw but I kinda wish there were other classes to fight other than magus and regen we's xD

Yes except for a decent AM on order side i don't see them losing to much . Maybe SM with M3 up.

SW is really fun but too bad ASW is the most nerfed spec on the server, hence some of these WE's are unacceptable ( although you did well, from what i can see :) )

Thanks :)

Thing about regen we is that you should be able to just leave the fight and regen to full hp whenever you want in a 1v1 circumstances. Even in my video few of the guys could've just left the fight if they decided to do so. Ofcourse that is not tied to just regen specs but to wh/we in general.

I never got to play the old version of asw so I wouldn't know but there are definitely things I wish would work a bit different for this current asw. I'm hoping it gets some good changes in the pve patch tho :)

[sharpblader]

In theory regen we shouldn't lose to anyone in a 1v1.
Then again pretty much every class with regen spec is usually on the winning side when it comes to duels against non regen specs (or classes that don't have self sustain).

I've had alot of fun with asw but I kinda wish there were other classes to fight other than magus and regen we's xD

Yes except for a decent AM on order side i don't see them losing to much . Maybe SM with M3 up.

SW is really fun but too bad ASW is the most nerfed spec on the server, hence some of these WE's are unacceptable ( although you did well, from what i can see )

Def WEs are a shadow of what they were. Stacking toughness and other pure defenses no longer work as good against other solo specs due to WB now scaling with strength.

It will still stomp non solo builds, but the good solo WEs you see that seem to be def/regen are actually running strength soft cap builds, and have dropped FM for better tactics.

Lastly, I believe SM M3 is too overrated. Good players just cc/stop attacking.

[sharpblader]

Spoiler:

some Assault Shadow Warrior solo fights against Witch Elfs

Click here to watch on YouTube

Nice fights as usual! Some of the WEs in the video can be hard to defeat. So gg

[Stinksuit]

In theory regen we shouldn't lose to anyone in a 1v1.
Then again pretty much every class with regen spec is usually on the winning side when it comes to duels against non regen specs (or classes that don't have self sustain).

I've had alot of fun with asw but I kinda wish there were other classes to fight other than magus and regen we's xD

Yes except for a decent AM on order side i don't see them losing to much . Maybe SM with M3 up.

SW is really fun but too bad ASW is the most nerfed spec on the server, hence some of these WE's are unacceptable ( although you did well, from what i can see :) )

Def WEs are a shadow of what they were. Stacking toughness and other pure defenses no longer work as good against other solo specs due to WB now scaling with strength.

It will still stomp non solo builds, but the good solo WEs you see that seem to be def/regen are actually running strength soft cap builds, and have dropped FM for better tactics.

Lastly, I believe SM M3 is too overrated. Good players just cc/stop attacking.

Personally I think the spec is still strong, it just works differently. You don't really need fs since you run the absorb from crits tactic. Leaving you with alot of renown points to use. You also don't really need ws since wb is your main source of dmg. And crit kinda falls under the same category. So you basically just need str cap and then you can pump other renown points into parry and dodge/disrupt making you quite annoying to deal with due to the changes made into defensive stats..

[Stinksuit]

Spoiler:

some Assault Shadow Warrior solo fights against Witch Elfs

Click here to watch on YouTube

Nice fights as usual! Some of the WEs in the video can be hard to defeat. So gg :D

Thanks! I actually found asw to be quite good in dealing with WEs. I guess asw in a way is a good counter to we. :)

[Pahakukka]

Spoiler:

some Assault Shadow Warrior solo fights against Witch Elfs

Click here to watch on YouTube

Nice fights as usual! Some of the WEs in the video can be hard to defeat. So gg

Thanks! I actually found asw to be quite good in dealing with WEs. I guess asw in a way is a good counter to we.

I think some other Asw enjoyer told me that its a beast against things like marauder and WE, well generally any pure mdps. Since it deals heavy frontloaded dmg in melee, has some uncoditional cc and can also kite away at first to drop guys HP before actually getting hit back.

How does it do against rdps? I would imagine it is a bit prone to be kited? Atleast thats what i do with magus.

[Avanos]

Nice Vid - Hopefully I will catch you in the lakes one day and reclaim the honor of my fellow WEs

[Farrul]

Def WEs are a shadow of what they were. Stacking toughness and other pure defenses no longer work as good against other solo specs due to WB now scaling with strength.

It will still stomp non solo builds, but the good solo WEs you see that seem to be def/regen are actually running strength soft cap builds, and have dropped FM for better tactics.

Lastly, I believe SM M3 is too overrated. Good players just cc/stop attacking.

Def We of the past was a balance disaster. After the nerfs its on the S tier list for solo roaming and still apparently tanky( which is saying somehing of how broken it used to be, in a league of its own).

As for SM M3 vs good players it could win a close fight by preventing the enemy from attacking, i wouldn't call it overrated since it offers a good advantage. Of course a skilled enough WE can just reset a battle and escape, hence why stealth classes like WE should never have the ability to spec tanky in the first place( in a balanced game).

WH is currently a better representation of how a stealth class should behave in a balance sense.

[Farrul]

I never got to play the old version of asw so I wouldn't know but there are definitely things I wish would work a bit different for this current asw. I'm hoping it gets some good changes in the pve patch tho

ASW used to 5k armor, Broadhead arrow available in asssult stance stacking 3 x. A big increase of Auto attack damage in assault stance( 60-70% iirc). I also believe crosscut is still bugged (the spirit dmg) but don't quote me on that one, i may be forgeting a few nerfs in the long series of nerfs to ASW.

I never understood why devs nerfed an underdog spec when everyone was playing Scout/festering anyways. Hopefully yes, devs will undo some of the nerfs or improve it in the upcoming dps patches, but I wouldn't count on anything.