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In order to run oppressing blows, rending blade, and corruptive power, you have only 2 points left over to choose between Relentless, AP drain aura, knockdown, and maybe daemonclaw if you really dig the extra 150ish strength. Not easy choices to make. On top of that, your resist aura will be laughably low as you have no points up the discord tree. Damage and defenses just got shot all to hell with this spec just so your group mates have a chance for a brief reduction in being crit.junkxjunk wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:44 pmuse rending blade every 5 seconds, even with just oppressing blows and lini is enough to proc it usually. Dont even need to gear that hard for it.
Sure, it looks like a truth, but this is not "help with damage" too) Again - if you make 10-20% of dps of typical damage dealer - its just nothing. Any player with healer at his back can just ignore any snb tank attacks him. And two snb tanks. And three. And two full dps geared 2h chosen. And three. In general, you can not make your chosen so that he represents at least some threat to someone. Except for stray lone hats or SW or BW, and then not always.Detangler wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:16 pmI ran DPS S/B chosen for a long time before devs took away Discordant Winds (**shakes fist at dev team**). 350-400 ravage/cleave hits was the norm before crits.Tobias26 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:48 pmWhen i have cap of strenght, smuggler greatsword and ~100 melee power - i see maximum crits for 500-800 dmg (350-550 usually), and hits for 200-400 ofc. And i absolutely sure - you never can hit for 650 dmg with one-handed weapon. You can see 150-300 crits with best equipment, and these are the maximum values, usually you will see ~70-120. Well, that is not "help with damage" for dps classes. When you make 10-20% of their damage - its almost nothing.Alubert wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:30 pm
Well maybe becosue you are "typical" chosen. Im not typical, Im Wybrany .
Who said that snb chosen need use def sets + def renown? Your zerg leader?
Shield make you so def. I use mix off sov + victorious + full armor talismans. I never dying before my guarded target.
You should listen to the guy. Can confirm everything he's saying, but I use a slightly different setup of gear for it. Also use a real end game weapon, not smugglers stuff, heh.
Good idea but most of RoR players dont wanna exact abilities from order mirrors (knight tactic).xoonerfree wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:23 amthe tactic should increase group hit crit rate by 10% instead.
Then who are you attacking? Tanks? Your priority goals or your guarded DD are SW / BW / AM / SL / WH / WL / ENGI or bad positioning healers.Tobias26 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:24 amSure, it looks like a truth, but this is not "help with damage" too) Again - if you make 10-20% of dps of typical damage dealer - its just nothing. Any player with healer at his back can just ignore any snb tank attacks him. And two snb tanks. And three. And two full dps geared 2h chosen. And three. In general, you can not make your chosen so that he represents at least some threat to someone. Except for stray lone hats or SW or BW, and then not always.Detangler wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:16 pmI ran DPS S/B chosen for a long time before devs took away Discordant Winds (**shakes fist at dev team**). 350-400 ravage/cleave hits was the norm before crits.Tobias26 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:48 pm
When i have cap of strenght, smuggler greatsword and ~100 melee power - i see maximum crits for 500-800 dmg (350-550 usually), and hits for 200-400 ofc. And i absolutely sure - you never can hit for 650 dmg with one-handed weapon. You can see 150-300 crits with best equipment, and these are the maximum values, usually you will see ~70-120. Well, that is not "help with damage" for dps classes. When you make 10-20% of their damage - its almost nothing.
You should listen to the guy. Can confirm everything he's saying, but I use a slightly different setup of gear for it. Also use a real end game weapon, not smugglers stuff, heh.
1. Chosen cant deal high damage. Just cant. Only knight deals less damage than the chosen.Alubert wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:34 pmThen who are you attacking? Tanks? Your priority goals or your guarded DD are SW / BW / AM / SL / WH / WL / ENGI or bad positioning healers.Tobias26 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:24 amSure, it looks like a truth, but this is not "help with damage" too) Again - if you make 10-20% of dps of typical damage dealer - its just nothing. Any player with healer at his back can just ignore any snb tank attacks him. And two snb tanks. And three. And two full dps geared 2h chosen. And three. In general, you can not make your chosen so that he represents at least some threat to someone. Except for stray lone hats or SW or BW, and then not always.Detangler wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:16 pm
I ran DPS S/B chosen for a long time before devs took away Discordant Winds (**shakes fist at dev team**). 350-400 ravage/cleave hits was the norm before crits.
You should listen to the guy. Can confirm everything he's saying, but I use a slightly different setup of gear for it. Also use a real end game weapon, not smugglers stuff, heh.
SnB chosen can deal high damage if it wants to, but it's not always worth it. That's why I recommend a balanced setup.
In the past when I had a more offensive build my personal record of 40 lev BW (sc nordenwatch, he and I were alone so no one had buffs and debuffs from others) I hit him with a Ravage 1149 dmg. Not bad for snb chosen. But my toughens was only 400.
I know, I know, of course you won't believe it .
I like your idea too.Tobias26 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:04 pm1. Chosen cant deal high damage. Just cant. Only knight deals less damage than the chosen.Alubert wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:34 pmThen who are you attacking? Tanks? Your priority goals or your guarded DD are SW / BW / AM / SL / WH / WL / ENGI or bad positioning healers.Tobias26 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:24 am
Sure, it looks like a truth, but this is not "help with damage" too) Again - if you make 10-20% of dps of typical damage dealer - its just nothing. Any player with healer at his back can just ignore any snb tank attacks him. And two snb tanks. And three. And two full dps geared 2h chosen. And three. In general, you can not make your chosen so that he represents at least some threat to someone. Except for stray lone hats or SW or BW, and then not always.
SnB chosen can deal high damage if it wants to, but it's not always worth it. That's why I recommend a balanced setup.
In the past when I had a more offensive build my personal record of 40 lev BW (sc nordenwatch, he and I were alone so no one had buffs and debuffs from others) I hit him with a Ravage 1149 dmg. Not bad for snb chosen. But my toughens was only 400.
I know, I know, of course you won't believe it .
2. Dps class like chopa (for example) could hit that not geared 35+ rank BW (im sure he's just like that) 2-3k i think, maybe more.
I don't want to say that the chosen should deal damage like a dps class. I want it to deal (with fully dps gear equipped) at least 50-70% of the dps class damage, not a 20-30% (10-20% snb). And i wating for rework which the developers promised.
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